Round and round we go...
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Peter Donald wrote:
> At 02:35 1/3/01 -0800, David Weinrich wrote:
> >With this in mind, I don't understand the recurring argument that this
> >project is a clear duplication of Avalon. So far this project has defined
> >some fairly clear goals and objectives through the work of people coming
> >from different jakarta projects, with a road map of how we can get there
> >slowly developing from these discussions.
>
> And as I have said repeatedly. The only difference so far is
> infrastructure. Once infrastructure is developed I assume all projects will
> use it. At which point there will be no difference between Avalon and library.
>
There are many more differences, the key one is the idea that this is
already a 'shared' environment that people from many different jakarta
projects have helped define.
> >What I would suggest is that Avalon focus on remaining that
> >framework/core.
>
> I will say it again - in the future the Application server will be split
> off. The utility code will go to AUT/whatever and components will go to
> library. At which point avalons charter will be "build an alternate
> component model". So effectively Avalon was rechartered from "server-side
> component repository" to "alternate component model" so another project
> could adopt it's original charter.
>
When and where did Avalon change it's charter? Was it voted on? So far the
only source I have telling me that 'Avalon is a set of standalone
components' is yourself, with *all* of the information on the website
pointing to 'Avalon is a framework for building servers in java'. Please
give me some information to help me understand what avalon is, a vote, a
document that clearly states this mysterious new charter, anything.
I really have strong reservations with throwing more viewpoints and
people on a project that has 'rechartered' itself in a way that the old
product it is known for becomes something else and the new product/goal
retains the same name. Avalon looks like a really cool project ( at least
the Avalon I understand it to be ), why make things more confusing for the
people who are trying to build solutions on it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
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> | and proving that there is no need to do so - almost |
> | everyone gets busy on the proof." |
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>
>
David
