https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79811
--- Comment #4 from Aleve Sicofante <[email protected]> --- (In reply to comment #2) > (In reply to comment #0) > > Problem description: > > > > Hybrid PDF is a great file format that would solve a lot of issues for > > offices sending documents to others. > > No, it is not. It is just a workaround to make PDF suck less. For > interoperability, we have this OASIS standard called ODF. Yes it is. And no, it's not a workaround whatsoever. It's a sane option to keep a whole office on PDF avoiding the current mess of sending editable documents out of the office. Your tone hardly invites civil discussion but I'll try. > > > However, it's use is difficult to > > implant as an habit for workers by being an export option instead of a save > > option. > > It is not difficult at all. All one needs is to click on the "Export to > PDF" icon on toolbar. It is indeed very difficult for a whole office of workers to use export instead of save EVERY TIME. It's also difficult to ignore the saving function altogether, because the goal is using Hybrid PDF as the single format inside an organisation. > > > > > My proposal is that Hybrid PDF is offered as yet another document format to > > the Save command and even allowing making it default. > > I strongly disagree. That's obvious, but you have yet to explain why. > > > > > From a formal point of view, since an Hybrid PDF file can be opened in > > LibreOffice Writer exactly the same as an ODT file, it shouldn't belong to > > the export option. > > Wrong. A hybrid PDF is still a PDF. Also, there is _no way_ to differentiate > a hybrid PDF from normal PDF except opening it, So these files would not be > listed in open dialog. Wronng. A Hybrid PDF is a PDF+ODF file. No way to differentiate both is irrelevant. This is a case for "an internal format for an organisation that happens to be easy to send out and easy to edit when inside the organisation. No duplication of files ever". > > > > > Current behavior: > > The user needs to go through the process of exporting and avoiding the > > standard saving mechanisms, which is odd and cumbersome and makes it hard > > for it to become a desirable habit. > > It is no more cumbersome than normal save. It is indeed. > > > > > Expected behavior: > > Hybrid PDF should be like any other document format, working on every > > Save/Save As/Save a Copy/etc. commands. > > I can already imagine uninformed users trying to use export to PDF instead > of normal save in other applications, "because it works in LibreOffice", and > losing their work... I don't follow this logic. LibreOffice only has to show "This PDF is not Hybrid and can't be edited in Writer" when a user trys to open (not import) a PDF. That won't happen with internal documents but will probably happen with many external ones. Besides, nothing prevents HybridPDFs to be shown with a different icon so you know which are Hybrid and which aren't. Just ouf of curiosity: what's your opinion on Hybrid PDFs? You just seem to hate them for no reason. Your overly agressive reply is way out of line. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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