https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501
--- Comment #131 from Rafael Lima <[email protected]> --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #115) > If you want to make this argument, you need to address the objections of > those of us who are against it. Which you, so far, have not. TBH my main goal in joining this discussion is to raise awareness about the problems we have in the Tabbed UI, which is possibly the second most popular UI variant, after the Standard Toolbar. I don't really mind if it doesn't end up becoming the default UI. But I would love to see it receiving more love from devs. As for "addressing the objections", I feel that this discussion is too subjective for one to address the objections of other users who oppose the Tabbed UI. There's nothing I can say that will objectively prove that the Tabbed UI is superior and that is not even my goal here. What I would love to see is the Tabbed UI being improved, so that those using it have a better experience. Only after this happens we will be able to discuss if it should become the default. > Again, you're speaking as though this has somehow been agreed. On the > contrary - you should refrain from lobbying the ESC for grant money; that > would be a misrepresentation of the discussion here. My objective was never "lobbying the ESC for grant money". Regardless of the Tabbed UI becoming the default or not, these issues we currently face in the Tabbed UI need to be fixed and I see no problem in bringing this discussion to the ESC. Mind you that the discussion I would like to bring to the ESC is "the Tabbed UI needs improvements and fixes"... it's not my intention of saying that "the Tabbed UI should become the default", because as you said this decision would not represent the opinions expressed here. (In reply to Luke Kendall from comment #117) > Although my suggestion (comment 35) was largely ignored, or misunderstood, > I'll reiterate it. > > If you make the UI choice a very visible indicator that can be used to > switch to a different UI style, OR to revert to the previous UI the user had > been using, I think you can defuse this issue. Unlike commercial software > which has to go all in, you have more flexibility. I believe Luke's proposal would be the ideal solution, which would be to provide the user a more prominent way to change the UI variant. Maybe the user could choose this during installation. I'm saying this because in the university where I work, most students using LibreOffice do not know there's a Tabbed UI. Those who are not involved with LO development and news simply have not heard of it and the way to change it is not very prominent so that new users will easily learn that it exists. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
