https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153534

--- Comment #11 from Eyal Rozenberg <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> The ticket started with "get rid of some and perhaps most of the page
> styles". We discussed this in the design meeting and come to the conclusion
> that every single page style has a use case. See also Jonathon's comment 7.
> => NAB

Considering how the minutes say very little, I had little to reply to, but
tried to do so in comment #10. I wonder if the discussion was actually more
serious than that. I replied to Jonathan's better-elaborated comment, in
comment #8.

Actually, by comment #8, I have come to realize that this should probably be a
meta-bug, as there are actual several different issues:

* Style naming
* Styles without any use case
* Potential page style use cases which aren't realized in LibreOffice right now
* The question of use-cases which don't involve the user explicitly choosing a
page style
* Styles with use apparent use cases which require 41316 to be valid.
* The case of Left/Right, which may have some kind of intended use case, but
it's bad/invalid/undesirable as well as confusing.

> Whether Left/Right is correct or should be Even/Odd is another question. It
> probably boils down whether RTL starts the first page on even numbers.

No, it doesn't boil down to that. It can't be fixed. Whichever way you try to
give a raison d'etre for Left Page / Right Page - it doesn't add up.

> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #8)
> > No, the mechanism of having separate features when a page is odd or even in
> > the order of pages, or being to the right or left of the spine, is something
> > which must be covered within a _single_ page style.
> 
> You invent new wheels; and even if your approach works we still want to
> support round-trips with other applications/document types.

On the contrary, these are existing wheels: "Page layout: Mirrored" is a
possible feature of a single page style, and is what you use to get the
alternating pages laid out different, with the gutter located near the spine.

"Left Page" / "Right Page" are new wheels. I've never seen a document which
uses them. I would bet very few people use these (and perhaps even nobody? I
wonder).

Even if, somehow, "Left Page" and "Right Page" existed before a gutter and
mirrored layout were supported - that would make them the old crutches, not the
old wheels...

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