Hi all,
here are the minutes for the LibreOffice QA call on:
Friday, 2012-04-06 1400UTC
attending: Rainer Bielefeld, Florian Reisinger, Petr Mladek, Jan Holesovsky
(Kendy), Bjoern Michaelsen
* pending action items
- Update/Create active triagers wiki page (Cor/Rainer)
- Publish Rainers charts'n data on blog/planets (Cor)
AA poke infra to add Rainers Blog to planet (Bjoern)
- collect further ideas for spending a dedicated resource (Cor/Rainer)
-> blocked: to get a concise list need to make a CaseConductor/Litmus
choice
- Set Cor up with the Community/Forum maintainers at the distros
to better propagate Hackfests, Bug Hunting Sessions etc.
RedHat, Debian, Gentoo still missing
- Walkthrough setup at Hackfest to find out what need better docs
(Bjoern/Rainer)
- Setting up a ready-to-go VirtualBox with everything installed would be
cool (Bjoern/Korrawit?)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47648
- automated test docs: really straightforward for Calc, just needs more
CSV test documents (all)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47667
Hackfest
* completed action items
- Check if test documents are URLs properly distributed to Checkbox (Bjoern)
URLs are there, but they are not hyperlinked
- Set Cor up with the Community/Forum maintainers at the distros
Ubuntu: done, SUSE: done (Bjoern, Petr)
* structured manual testing
- tests are in checkbox
- Call for Testing is out:
http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/04/opportunity-manual-application-testing.html
AA Blog about this refering to checkbox for Ubuntu and Litmus for others
(Bjoern)
- CaseConductor evaluation
- Sophie Gaultier did some great research:
- CaseConductor now called MozTrap, to raise confusion
- would need more permissions/roles to investigate in Mozillas staging
instance
- Petr also had a look:
- a bit confusing at first
- but a lot nicer/modern than Litmus
- might be easier if setup properly
- our own instance probably the way to go as we need an admin for it in the
end anyway
- forward to infra to get a staging instance setup (Sophie/Bjoern)
- Rainer: we need better documentation on the "why" of Litmus/MozTrap
- wiki pages contain a lot of detailed information about the how, but
little on the why
- important topic to get started on the Hackfest
- Kendy: Need for regular manual testing for update scenarios
- in theory classical example case for Litmus/MozTrap
- also still for 3.5 release series
AA - write testcase in Litmus (Kendy)
- given the limited current reach of Litmus, we might propagate in blogs
too
- we really need to make structured manual a lot more visible for 3.6
* bugwrangling
- bugwrangling documentation (Florian)
- current bug wrangling docs are to complex (Florian)
- wiki docs are ad-hoc and it shows (Rainer)
AA - good old plain document for bugwrangling beginners is in the works
(Rainer/Florian)
AA - discuss this along with other wiki cleanup at the Hackfest
(Rainer/Bjoern)
- get the documentation team involved maybe? (Rainer)
- in the wiki rework also consider entry points from ask.libreoffice.org
(Bjoern)
- generic bug tagging
- currently not a pressing issue (Rainer)
- in general whiteboard status is good for this (Petr)
- tagging in summary might cause trouble (Bjoern)
(::rtl::OUString bugs vs. Right-To-Left bugs for example)
- agreement that the 50 current RTL bugs are not that problematic yet
- for the future we should prevent summary tagging to become a custom
- also excessive summary tags cause trouble in bugmail (Petr)
AA - bulk change remove EasyHack from summary, make that whiteboard tagging
only (Rainer)
- Florian setup a VirtualBox image for Linux regression testing
- Ubuntu precise/12.04
- has LibreOffice 3.5.x and LibreOffice 3.4.x with Rainer parallel
installation script
AA - provide Florian with a LibreOffice 3.3 build for this
- publishing VirtualBox somewere for broader audience (Bjoern)
AA - needs webspace (Bjoern)
- Florian cannot be at the Hackfest
AA - meet up remotely (IRC/Skype), find time/date (Rainer/Bjoern)
* automated testing
- Regina Herschel and Markus Mohnhard will be at the Hackfest, looking
forward for good progress there
* bibisect for 3.5 release branch and 3.6 master
AA - provide 3.5 release and 3.6 master bibisect updates
* next call:
Friday, 2012-04-20 14:00UTC
Corrections and additions most welcome. I am most happily surprised by Florian
showing up and also having an interesting project at hand!
See most of you at the Hackfest in Hamburg!
Best,
Bjoern
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