Hi Jay, hi all,

thanks a lot for your work with the toolbar proposal.

I had a look at the screenshots and the coments on this list. I would like to add a few comments, too. I also wanted to send it to the UX mailing list, but I could not find Jay's related email there.

First, I like the grouping of icons. I think it is a good idea that everything is accessible and the interface clean. However, I understand the criticism that some people may not find their buttons anymore. Hence, it would be perfect, if there is a super-simple method to permanently add buttons out of a group to the toolbar. The best method would be if the icon from the group can be simply put there by drag&drop. Then the user has his/her preferred icon again on the toolbar. Such an easy mechanism will save lots of headaches on all sides.

There are two icons, I would definitively not remove from the default set.
Please don't remove:

 * "New file" icon which currently is on the top left side of the
   toolbar. I have seen lots of people using it and it shows the
   excellent integration of all office components (which is a big plus
   compared to MS Office!). People will be very confused if they do not
   easily find their way of starting a new document. Think of the
   confusion about the "backstage-flower" in MS Office 2007. People had
   been revolting that they did not find new, open, save and print.
 * "Styles and formatting" currently on the second row left side of the
   toolbar. If statistically people are not using this button enough,
   it is a matter to promote this button more, as the reliance on
   styles is LibreOffice's big strength. (taken from the OSBA-funding
   site, additionally chart styles and object styles are in
   development. Table styles in Writer and Calc are still missing, though).

A general question: How does the toolbar proposal integrate with the new sidebar?

Best greetings,
Gerry


Am 26.07.2014 06:08, schrieb Jay Philips:
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