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have fun and don't cry Aaron Wolf <[email protected]> writes: > Citations? Who has trademarked those words? I don't believe you that > anyone has gotten legal trademark of those. > > On 04/17/2015 09:33 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote: >> Normal words cannot be trademark you say ... some people have trademark >> god christ freedom free ... >> >> The "normality" is what is not for some others ... >> >> Regards >> >> Aaron Wolf <[email protected]> writes: >> >>> One clarification: To say simply: While Trademark is important, Git is >>> *abusing* their trademark by not simply accept GitBull quickly. The >>> situation is stupid. Git had *no* reason to stop a Kallithea host from >>> using a Git name, and trademark law should not give them that level of >>> power. If a service is fully and completely using Git software and doing >>> nothing that misrepresents their relationship to Git, they should be >>> accepted. However, Git *should* have the ability to complain and stop >>> the service from using the name if they start doing anything that could >>> be confused. >>> >>> I think instead of stopping the use of the name, Git should simply >>> require a statement like "This service uses Git software but is not >>> officially connected to the Git project or endorsed by the Git project." >>> >>> On 04/17/2015 09:13 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>>> Thanks for the news. >>>> >>>> Please learn more about trademark though. Trademark is NOT owning any >>>> word. Normal words cannot be trademarked, and trademark isn't full >>>> ownership of words. The Git project does not own the word "Git" if it >>>> were used for something like a brand of ice cream. They do not own the >>>> word in terms of people talking about the Git project. The do not >>>> control it completely. They have exclusive control over only a small >>>> area: the use of the word Git for *products* and *services* that are in >>>> the area where people could confuse them for being official Git products >>>> or services. >>>> >>>> In other words, trademark is a *consumer protection*. It helps make sure >>>> that the public are not tricked into thinking something is an official >>>> version or officially endorsed part of something when it is not. This >>>> does not make anyone a slave. >>>> >>>> By complaining to you, Git was saying: "We don't know that we fully >>>> endorse your GitBull service, and we are worried that the public may >>>> think your service has official connection to the Git project. So, we >>>> want to restrict the name Git here because we want people to know that >>>> if they see Git in the name of something similar to or related to the >>>> Git project that it isn't a fake thing or a trick or something." >>>> >>>> Now, *I* think it is wrong for Git to do anything other than realize >>>> that GitBull was fine. But I do *not* think they should have no >>>> trademark. I do *not* want someone else less responsible than you to >>>> make Git-something that actually uses Git badly or pretends to be like >>>> Git when it is actually not Git software but something similar but >>>> different. That might make people have bad experience and think badly of >>>> Git. Trademark is GOOD for the public, which is not true for patents and >>>> copyright. >>>> >>>> On 04/17/2015 02:02 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Coders! >>>>> >>>>> So ... on start this thread wake up with Alimiracle who request for >>>>> support for fully free solution for his codes host. >>>>> >>>>> It is right that many solution already exist, but they are not all >>>>> completly free or try to be, but are not. >>>>> >>>>> We try on our side to make this place a reality, which represent many >>>>> trouble, but, find the way with kallithea. >>>>> >>>>> At first we have used the name gitbull, git for the tool ... bull for >>>>> the horns of the gnu beast. >>>>> >>>>> But freedom is not the same in the mind of every humans. >>>>> >>>>> The Software Freedom Conservancy ping me (very correctly) but ping me on >>>>> the fact we use the term git and the point that git is trademark. >>>>> >>>>> That make me discover that many things are trademark and by the way ping >>>>> LibrePlanet to act on LibreMark. >>>>> >>>>> We can't own a name, because to make it short if i own the name earth >>>>> you are all my slave. If I own the name fire, your ass will freeze ... >>>>> >>>>> A bit strong form of explanation, but simple enought to say that it is >>>>> not because you own a word that in front the reality of this know part >>>>> of the bubble universes where we live it is the reality. >>>>> >>>>> You don't own anything, but yes you can use the force to jail me. Very >>>>> human and in human by the way. >>>>> >>>>> So, >>>>> >>>>> We push all our things to https://bull.codes >>>>> >>>>> and continue to make the things free as in freedom and price. >>>>> >>>>> I understand that this last point is very difficult for some people to >>>>> understand, but if you think of this planet 7000 years before there were >>>>> no money and things were not so bad. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe money is the chain of slavery you just don't have ping in your >>>>> mind. >>>>> >>>>> Welcome to our Free Coding Community, Welcome to Bull Codes >>>>> >>>>> https://bull.codes >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> >> > <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> -- Aurélien Desbrières Bull.Codes - Community Coding Hackers.Camp - OutDoor Hacktivities Hackers-Lab.org - Free Software & Mechatronics Laboratory
