Something should be possible like https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en but for LibreMark :-)
Plato have explain the importance of the words ... Plato was not a fool. Regards Ali Abdul Ghani <[email protected]> writes: > if some people make trademark to this names > > Aaron Wolf > Aurélien DESBRIÈRES > rms > ali > rose > bull > what should we do? > lol > in fact There is no clear law to use names in trademark > English language like Software it must be free > > Regards > > 2015-04-17 9:52 جرينتش-07:00, Aaron Wolf <[email protected]>: >> That link says it is expired. Anyway, I searched for "god" and >> "freedom". I see no trademarks on those words. Nor can they be >> trademarked. They can only be used in specific terms like "Freedom >> Juice" and "Freedom Studios" and "Freedom Tower". >> >> The simple fact that there are 4980 results for "freedom" show that >> nobody controls the simple word "freedom". >> >> Regardless, if you find bad trademark examples, that's no different from >> other laws being used badly. I'm sure some trademarks get through that >> should have been rejected and might be judged invalid if taken to court. >> >> On 04/17/2015 09:42 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote: >>> the official uspto search engine >>> >>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4809:eeiwnn.1.1 >>> >>> have fun and don't cry >>> >>> Aaron Wolf <[email protected]> writes: >>> >>>> Citations? Who has trademarked those words? I don't believe you that >>>> anyone has gotten legal trademark of those. >>>> >>>> On 04/17/2015 09:33 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote: >>>>> Normal words cannot be trademark you say ... some people have trademark >>>>> god christ freedom free ... >>>>> >>>>> The "normality" is what is not for some others ... >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Aaron Wolf <[email protected]> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> One clarification: To say simply: While Trademark is important, Git is >>>>>> *abusing* their trademark by not simply accept GitBull quickly. The >>>>>> situation is stupid. Git had *no* reason to stop a Kallithea host from >>>>>> using a Git name, and trademark law should not give them that level of >>>>>> power. If a service is fully and completely using Git software and >>>>>> doing >>>>>> nothing that misrepresents their relationship to Git, they should be >>>>>> accepted. However, Git *should* have the ability to complain and stop >>>>>> the service from using the name if they start doing anything that >>>>>> could >>>>>> be confused. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think instead of stopping the use of the name, Git should simply >>>>>> require a statement like "This service uses Git software but is not >>>>>> officially connected to the Git project or endorsed by the Git >>>>>> project." >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/17/2015 09:13 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>>>>>> Thanks for the news. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please learn more about trademark though. Trademark is NOT owning any >>>>>>> word. Normal words cannot be trademarked, and trademark isn't full >>>>>>> ownership of words. The Git project does not own the word "Git" if it >>>>>>> were used for something like a brand of ice cream. They do not own >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> word in terms of people talking about the Git project. The do not >>>>>>> control it completely. They have exclusive control over only a small >>>>>>> area: the use of the word Git for *products* and *services* that are >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the area where people could confuse them for being official Git >>>>>>> products >>>>>>> or services. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, trademark is a *consumer protection*. It helps make >>>>>>> sure >>>>>>> that the public are not tricked into thinking something is an >>>>>>> official >>>>>>> version or officially endorsed part of something when it is not. This >>>>>>> does not make anyone a slave. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By complaining to you, Git was saying: "We don't know that we fully >>>>>>> endorse your GitBull service, and we are worried that the public may >>>>>>> think your service has official connection to the Git project. So, we >>>>>>> want to restrict the name Git here because we want people to know >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> if they see Git in the name of something similar to or related to the >>>>>>> Git project that it isn't a fake thing or a trick or something." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, *I* think it is wrong for Git to do anything other than realize >>>>>>> that GitBull was fine. But I do *not* think they should have no >>>>>>> trademark. I do *not* want someone else less responsible than you to >>>>>>> make Git-something that actually uses Git badly or pretends to be >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> Git when it is actually not Git software but something similar but >>>>>>> different. That might make people have bad experience and think badly >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Git. Trademark is GOOD for the public, which is not true for patents >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> copyright. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 04/17/2015 02:02 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Coders! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So ... on start this thread wake up with Alimiracle who request for >>>>>>>> support for fully free solution for his codes host. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is right that many solution already exist, but they are not all >>>>>>>> completly free or try to be, but are not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We try on our side to make this place a reality, which represent >>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>> trouble, but, find the way with kallithea. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At first we have used the name gitbull, git for the tool ... bull >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> the horns of the gnu beast. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But freedom is not the same in the mind of every humans. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Software Freedom Conservancy ping me (very correctly) but ping me >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the fact we use the term git and the point that git is trademark. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That make me discover that many things are trademark and by the way >>>>>>>> ping >>>>>>>> LibrePlanet to act on LibreMark. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can't own a name, because to make it short if i own the name >>>>>>>> earth >>>>>>>> you are all my slave. If I own the name fire, your ass will freeze >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A bit strong form of explanation, but simple enought to say that it >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> not because you own a word that in front the reality of this know >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of the bubble universes where we live it is the reality. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You don't own anything, but yes you can use the force to jail me. >>>>>>>> Very >>>>>>>> human and in human by the way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We push all our things to https://bull.codes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and continue to make the things free as in freedom and price. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand that this last point is very difficult for some people >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> understand, but if you think of this planet 7000 years before there >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> no money and things were not so bad. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe money is the chain of slavery you just don't have ping in your >>>>>>>> mind. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Welcome to our Free Coding Community, Welcome to Bull Codes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://bull.codes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> >>>>> >>>> >>> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> >>> >> >> > > <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> -- Aurélien Desbrières Bull.Codes - Community Coding Hackers.Camp - OutDoor Hacktivities Hackers-Lab.org - Free Software & Mechatronics Laboratory
