On 09/04/2021 12:39, Jean Louis wrote:
* Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss <[email protected]> [2021-04-09 14:08]:Hi AllIn an effort to try and recruit and importantly help find more developers at all levels I am trying to reach out to people locally. I think what is needed here, is a clearly laid out pathway in to free software contribution using free software tools.Which software in particular?
Who ever needs help
So for example, a project needs to make it clear which programming languages / frameworks or skills are needed, from there we can find ways to helping learners develop those skillsI would not say so, as it is not a company with limited resources. We are society and we contribute our knowledge and skills as we wish and want, thus there is no limit in our resources. That is why it is not good to say in free software projects that specific skills or programming languages are needed. Instead, welcoming everybody's contribution is better approach. This is how it was done for many years. This process then helps that some people give only suggestions, some people will donate, some will become fans and promoters, some will contribute patches, and some will enter into core development teams.
Agreed
My suggestions is not to say which skills or programming languages are needed. But I understand you are browsing list of programmers and wish to ask them to contribute. Then think about specific project and find yourself what is required, and try to find people that way.
Ok, i think I am too used to the way people recruit for jobs,
How can we take people from having some basic IT knowledge and then help them develop further, without it taking up masses of our time (unless people pay us of course)Simple. Open up computer club. Put several computers, advertise and people will come from the area to learn. Ask them to pay memberships and come as many times as they wish and want. This is great activity, I have been doing it.
Well we do have the south devon tech jam which covers stem, until we can get back to meeting face to face then opportunity to promote is more limited.
Then schedule programming classes. I have been teaching people already as minor. Let them teach each other, we programmed in machine language on peculiar computers, even today we do not know their names. I have same intention now, I have soon enough computers to start, some furniture and room space and people, it can work. I will inform here when it starts. It will be named GNU Free Software Club.
Sounds good
It would just be useful to have some sort of backing to this. I have joined DebianAcademy team to help develop materials, so they are working on a packaging course, and a few others. I created a course on LaTeX presentations, so people could contribute)Great. There are free computer courses online already on Wikiversity. Consider contributing into that database. https://www.wikiversity.org/ https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer
Cool thanks, could be a good place to list my study support group, granted it is not all computing but there are more and more elements of computer / data science in other subjects, so basic coding is needed. If I can bring people together that will help.
I am just concerned that if we insist on using fully free software tool online tools, people are not going to bother, they will howeverI don't bother about that, computer club will be named GNU Free Software Club and it will be clear from beginning what it is about. If they use some software at their home, it does not matter, but in the club, in physical space there will be no such.I can present an idea to people locally (Torbay, Devon), but I am under the serious impression we need to spell out EXACTLY what people are to expect and learn, rather than suggesting a general idea.For each class of knowledge you teach people different things. Please state clearly purpose of your project?By doing this ourselves, as advocates of free software, we can include links to why free software methologies are better, even if we have to be a little flexible in what we use for support and communication, Discourse my not be ideal, but would we rather people used facebook or discord?Of course not Facebook. It is very easy to establish XMPP chat, it can be on the website or by using various applications, it will work from any device. There are other free software communication packages.My support group is about respecting privacy /user freedom as much as possible.In that case how can you use Facebook as a tool? Do you know that FB data has been leaked for 522 millions?
I am saying i am not going to use facebook hence I want to use discourse, irc, etc, My point is, that while discourse may not be 100 percent free software it s better than facebook.
https://hyperscope.link/3/6/8/5/8/Direct-download-of-533M-Facebook-users-phone-numbers-and-personal-data-have-been-leaked-online-36858.html
I just hope the EU hit them with a nice massive fine for this, people use facebook and can't get off it, (mentally that is) so what ever facebook does, won't change that mindset.
I was thinking more of big blue button, but actually bulletin board could work too.We can use BBB for classroom type chat, over using zoom or teams.BBB like in good old times? Which one?
Paul
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