On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 09:04 -0400, Suushi via libreplanet-discuss wrote: I have never used Discord, but you can use Jami as a replacement.
> > > > By doing this ourselves, as advocates of free software, we can > > > > include links to why free software methologies are better, even > > > > if > > > > we have to be a little flexible in what we use for support and > > > > communication, Discourse my not be ideal, but would we rather > > > > people > > > > used facebook or discord? > > > > > > Of course not Facebook. It is very easy to establish XMPP chat, > > > it can > > > be on the website or by using various applications, it will work > > > from > > > any device. There are other free software communication packages. > > > > > > > My support group is about respecting privacy /user freedom as > > > > much > > > > as possible. > > > > > > In that case how can you use Facebook as a tool? Do you know that > > > FB > > > data has been leaked for 522 millions? > > > > I am saying i am not going to use facebook hence I want to use > > discourse, irc, etc, My point is, that while discourse may not be > > 100 > > percent free software it s better than facebook. > > > https://hyperscope.link/3/6/8/5/8/Direct-download-of-533M-Facebook-users-phone-numbers-and-personal-data-have-been-leaked-online-36858.html > > Are you kidding? Facebook is obviously evil, but discord is a nonfree > spyware program that you pretty much *need* to install on your > computer > in order to utilize it's full functionality. That means you must > leave > it running in the background in order to get notifications, see > messages and receive calls while you're going about your daily > business > on the computer, and it is basically this black box that is just > sitting there listening and recording the processes running on your > machine. It is made and used by scoundrels and anything you say on > there, text or voice, you ought to assume to be logged and recorded. > It is very much still social media, with all the negative aspects of > facebook and others intact. It ropes in young people and gets them > addicted to the dopamine from the social stimulation and it's hard to > detach from it once all your 'net friends are on there (speaking from > experience). They may use "gamer speak" or whatever in their program > or > their twitter for PR, but don't let it fool you, discord is not your > friend and friends don't let friends use discord. > > I would suggest you refer to this article, it covers some of the > things > I have mentioned. https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html > > Why should we or anyone concede to the enemy and compromise our > principles to use something awful like discord for the sake of > short-term convenience? That is a terrible quagmire to get stuck in > -- > not only are you sacrificing your own freedom and privacy for > immediate > convenience, but you are coercing others into doing the same, and it > is > possible that you or those other people become addicted to the > dopamine > rush from other "servers" on discord! > > Why not just start a channel on freenode? It's trivial to do so and > have people unfamiliar with IRC connect using a web-based client, > once > they are more comfortable with the protocol they can install a real > client. It's sort of a n00b filter as well -- IRC may look > intimidating > (to some people) at first, but isn't anything difficult once you get > used to it. > > If you absolutely *must* have voice communications for some reason, > there is always mumble. > > It's easy to tell which software projects are worth taking seriously, > just look at whether they use IRC or discord. > _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
