On 5/26/26 16:09, Jean Louis wrote:
Your statement "The US Copyright Office declared that LLM output is non- copyrightable." is wrong, it is in the wrong context and without the context!

In Part II of the report on Copyright and Artificial Intelligence,

        https://www.copyright.gov/ai/

it concludes with the observation that LLM output, and AI output in general, is ineligible for copyrights unless that output is modified by a human for the purposes of creative expression:

        "As described above, in many circumstances these outputs
        will be copyrightable in whole or in part—where AI is
        used as a tool, and where a human has been able to
        determine the expressive elements they contain. Prompts
        alone, however, at this stage are unlikely to satisfy
        those requirements."

        
https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-2-Copyrightability-Report.pdf

For further clarification, there are written guidelines on the scope of copyright in the context of slop which has been handled meaningfully by humans:

        "Consistent with the Office’s policies described above,
        applicants have a duty to disclose the inclusion of
        AI-generated content in a work submitted for registration
        and to provide a brief explanation of the human author’s
        contributions to the work"

However, slop which has not been handled meaningfully by humans remains ineligible for copyright:

        "... a work “autonomously created by artificial intelligence
        without any creative contribution from a human actor” was
        “ineligible for registration”.

        https://www.copyright.gov/ai/ai_policy_guidance.pdf

Thus the problem raised in Andy's original message, that LLMs can be and are being misused to strip licensing (and attribution) from projects' code bases. The code goes into the large language model with a license and a copyright holder. Calling that infringement a training set doesn't change its nature. Then the code comes back out of the model as slop, and while slop in general is ineligible for copyright status the original code remains strongly protected by copyright, whether plagiarized by an LLM or not.

And, again, as mentioned in an earlier reply, there is the further problem of the LLMs separating users from projects and vice versa. That is a whole other discussion about duplicated effort, missing communications, and general lost opportunities.

/Lars

PS. COPE (Committee on Publication Ethics) writes the following:

        "COPE joins organisations, such as WAME and the JAMA
        Network among others, to state that AI tools cannot
        be listed as an author of a paper."

        
https://publicationethics.org/guidance/cope-position/authorship-and-ai-tools

It would not be a stretch to apply a similar conclusion to code which has been mangled by an LLM.

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