Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:26:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Jacques=20D'Hondt?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Methods, compatible with Ghost, to get all the size of HDD > 8GB
Hi all,
CONCERN : METHODS, COMPATIBLE WITH GHOST, TO GET ALL
THE SIZE OF A MORE THAN 8GB HDD.
!!! WARNING : I have post a message to explain how I
have crashed one lib keyboard by put in and out (and
justly to achieve this actual report test) a 9.5 mm
height HDD three or four times !!!
I have recently make a good deal by adding an almost
brand new Libretto 110 CT for $750 to my collection of
"Lilliput" computers (I love all these sweet machine,
especially the oldest because of their cheap prices).
I have also already placed without any problem in my
precedent Lib 100 a very good 6.4 Gb Fujitsu (see
results below).
Thanks to another very recent great deal, I decided to
upgrade the original 4Gb HD of the 110 by a 12.07 Gb
IBM (DARA-212000).
As already many said here, both Lib 100 and 110 can
only see the first 8Gb of any harddisk.
Fortunately, there is more than one way to get all the
real size available.
But, as I always use the excellent Norton Ghost to
make images of all of my disks (or partitions), I
absolutely need a solution compatible with it.
BTW, many people ask for solutions to reinstall their
OS (and applications) from scratch.
For me, the easiest way is done by making a parallel
connection which is also universal in the PC world
(for Mac I use of course SCSI).
Personnaly I use an external SCSI to // harddrive
which can be mount in DOS with just two little drivers
in the config.sys (the actual mine is from Lacie :
Ergo Para Model J3201A-K2Z).
So, I avoid all the problems of the PCMCIA port wich
always needs specific "card and socket services"
software.
To reach my goal, I have tried and tested two methods.
(Don't forget : first of all, take a complete image of
each partition of your "old disk" with Ghost)
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1) FIRST METHOD : DISK MANAGER (DM) and PARTITION
MAGIC (PM)
Why DM and PM. Because with DM alone you cannot change
the partitioning aftwerwards without remake all the
job.
In addition, PM permits to manage your disk (without
data loss) and thus can also be used "to block or to
hide" the data area that the Libretto uses when it
falls in hibernate mode.
WHAT YOU NEED :
A) DM (included in "Disk Go!") downloadable for free
from IBM site (DM is an IBM owner software from
"Ontrack" software)
DM allows to get all the available size of a HDD
(by installing a special startup code), even if the
BIOS cannot (the Libretto case).
For those who want to install a HDD from another
manufacturer, you'll must probably acquire an
universal "Ontrack" version software.
B) PM version 5.0 from Powerquest (I have not make
the test but, according to one of you, previous PM
versions cannot manage DM partitioning).
What's the method :
a) Boot with a basic DOS system diskette (at least DOS
6.2)
b) Run DM from IBM (or from Ontrack for other
manufacturer disk)
c) Let DM to make only one big partition in FAT32 (in
my case I get a partition of 11.5 GB, apparently the
maximum usable size).
d) After reboot (see warning below !), boot with disk1
of PM. Then, at prompt, place disk2 in the drive which
automatically launch the application.
e) Create all the partitions you need or you want (you
can prepare your disk to use multi-OS and also change
the type of FAT to meet your needs).
f) After PM has make its job, reboot (after Ontrack
banner !) from a basic DOS diskette
g) Launch Ghost from DOS to reload your OS or/and
applications images.
BUT, HERE, IN A FIRST TIME, I HAVE THINKED THAT THIS
METHOD WAS NOT ABLE TO END THE JOB.
Effectively, if PM can see the partitions just
created, Ghost CANNOT : he just see one big Unknow
volume !
I have then try the second method explain below, but
due to another annoying limitation for me, I have
decided to go deeply into this.
AND here is the solution : a little switch to add when
launching Ghost (tanks to the Norton support).
Correct step "g" by this :
g) Launch Ghost with -FNI switch (a:\>Ghost -FNI) from
DOS to reload your OS or/and applications images.
With this (in my case), Ghost can now perfectly see
all the partitions created.
Reload "images" are a question of minutes.
Of course, you must add to your system files the
needed drivers to mount any external device if your
images are there.
In my case, I just add two little files in my
config.sys to mount my SCSI to // drive.
FIRST METHOD CONCLUSION :
PROS :
GOAL reached :
a) Compatible with GHOST
b) All the HDD size is accessible
AND, in addition, this method has the great advantage
to allow to make the job directly on the Lib (no need
of extra hardware or PC) and above all to make all
kind of subsequent modifications with PM also directly
on the Lib (eg. preserve the hibernation data area by
change it in an hide partition)
CONS :
BUT she can be dangerous if you boot from diskette
before DM invite you to do it (always wait the blue
"Ontracks" banner).
Moreover, in case of problem, it can be very difficult
to recover data because many utilities can't correctly
or not at all see the actual state of the disk.
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2) SECOND METHOD : PARTITION MAGIC (PM), A PC WITH
RECENT BIOS, A 3.5" to 2.5" ADAPTER
What you need :
A) PM version 4.01 or above from Powerquest.
B) A temporary access to a recent PC (in fact a PC
with a recent BIOS that recognizes and supports larges
disks)
C) A 3.5" to 2.5" adapter needed to attach your Lib
disk to a free IDE port on the host PC.
What's the method :
a) Configure (master or slave) and attach your Lib
disk to the host PC via the adapter.
b) Boot the PC with disk1 of PM.
c) Then, at prompt, place disk2 of PM which
automatically launch the application.
d) Create all the partitions you need or you want ON
YOUR LIB DISK ! DON'T CONFUSE WITH THE PC DISKS !
e) After PM has make its job, you must now make a
partition active (this can be done automatically if
the Lib disk is the primary MASTER)
f) Let PM do this job and, when you are invited to
REBOOT, it is safe to SHUT DOWN THE PC (no trouble,
you are in this good old DOS)
g) Remove your Lib disk and put it (back ?) in your
Adorable Libretto
REMARK (at least for the IBM DARA-212000) :
Some people have mentionned some difficulty to put 9.5
mm HDD in a Lib 100 or 110.
The IBM DARA has 9.5 mm height. It ENTER into a Lib
100 or 110, but sometimes with a little difficulty.
!!! EVEN it's possible that you'll must force to put
the drive at the bottom of the bay, WITH EVENTUALLY
THE RISK OF CRASHING SOMETHING (see WARNING above) !!!
In addition you'll must probably fold a little the
edges of the metal ejection bracket, because the holes
in which the screws retain the bracket are a little
lower than on the original Toshiba HDD.
h) Finally reboot in DOS and launch Ghost to reload
your OS and/or applications images.
Of course, you must add to your system files the
needed drivers to mount any external device if your
images are there.
Apparently, this method also reach the goal, BUT there
is a big BUT.
You cannot (I have not find how) make afterwards
modifications DIRECTLY on the Lib with PM because PM
don't recognize (on the lib) its own partioning make
on "the other smart" PC !
Thus, why use PM here if you do not intend to use
multiple OS or want to make subsequent modifications ?
In this last case, FDISK can make the job as well (and
for free)
SECOND METHOD CONCLUSION :
PROS :
GOAL reached :
a) Compatible with GHOST
b) All the HDD size is accessible
No so special owner translation software (DM) and
perhaps not free for all.
Probably more reliable and more accessible by third
utilities softwares (in case of problem).
Finally, quite easy if you are not annoying by the
(little) hardware procedure.
CONS :
You MUST have access to a recent PC and to a 3.5" to
2.5" adapter :
a) to do the initial partitioning
b) AND "helas" (see above) for all subsequent
partitioning modifications, because of Libretto BIOS
limitations.
GENERAL TEMPORARY CONCLUSION :
The first method gives thru my eyes more advantages
than the second.
Especially if you are often on the move and want to
manage your disk even in the hell.
Remember however, that you need special third software
for (eventually free).
And remember also that you can (via another PC) make
all the job with just FDISK for basic partitioning.
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Hope that help (and excuse my "semi-equiped kitchen"
English)
Feedback or questions are welcome.
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SOME DISK BENCH RESULTS (Collected with SiSoft SANDRA)
Give by the first pass in the test (subsequent tests
give best results)
AVERAGE RATE TRANSFER IN MB/S
TOSHIBA 2GB : 2500
TOSHIBA 4GB : 3000
FUJITSU 6GB : 4000 (the best)
IBM 12GB : 3600
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Jacques D'Hondt - Brussels - Belgium
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