Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:06:33 +1100
From: Daniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Sony mininotebook

On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 11:38:35PM -0800, David Chien wrote:
> 
>   However, modern benchmarks have improved in various areas and some simulate
> the general day-long operations carried out by a typical user using typical
> office applications.  If performance is poor even then, the results suggest a
> poor performance in other applications.  

Wrong, wrong wrong. How many times do you use comdlg32.dll? gdi.exe user.exe
After a number of passes the Crusoe architecture will run these faster
as it profiles the code and optimises it.


>   In any case, I'm certainly not typing in the same thing over and over again
> (nor clicking the same thing, nor running the same thing in the same order on
> my PC).  I don't believe many others are doing the same, unless their work is
> extremely dull and repetitive ;)

Well actually you are. The same piece of code gets run each time you 
pull down a menu/access the hard drive. These benchmarks are
fundamentally broken in they assume the result is identical between
runs.

>   Also, the latest issue of a Japanese mobile PC magazine finds the LOOX to be
> ~50% slower than a 500Mhz Celeron CPU across various benchmarks on average.

Explain why a crusoe can happily decode DVD in software. No 250Mhz celeron
can do that.

>   While many people are running <266mhz Librettos and other PCs w/o a problem,
> I need at least a 400Mhz system for what I do, and preferably, faster.  That
> reason contributed to my selling my L50 and 505GX years ago - they simply
> weren't fast enough to keep me from waiting.  Today, however, they've finally
> caught up at 400+Mhz for laptop CPUs, and I'd be happy on one.

HP pioneered the research that made Crusoe possible. They ran software
on an emulator that emulated the processor it was run on, and it 
was faster than running natively. Why? Because it could analyse the
code and optimise on the fly.

The HP software (Dynamo) is discussed at Ars Technica

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/1q00/dynamo/dynamo-1.html

This sort of stuff is gonna be huge, and the PC press (as usual)
are too clueless to realise what it means. Hence their benchmarks
are useless.


Cheers
Daniel Smith

-- 
This is one of the two big reasons why I'm glad I'm a man (the other one is 
that I will never be called upon to have an entire human being pass through 
one of my bodily orifices).
                -- Dave Barry




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