Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:23:49 -0700
From: "jason bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 50ct new HD pob solved w Neil's BIOS

Neil,
I was the guy installing a 20 Gig HD on my 50CT and during a win98 install something 
happened that caused the computer to freeze after memory check.
The funny thing was that both HDs worked fine up untill that point.
I tried boot disks, which told me that there was no HD installed.
I tried updating the BIOS which didn't work the first attempt.
I tried grounding pins 8 and 9 on the HDs (both), which didn't work.
I even went back and UNoverclocked the unit which didn't work.

Finally I tried the BIOS again and this time it installed and afterwords the computer 
booted fine.  It is possible that the files were not extracted properly the first time.

Horray! Thanks for that link, Neil and the others for their help as well.
www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/Binaries/1014v650.exe
I am guessing that the win98 install shut down in the middle of a BIOS update, leaving 
a bad BIOS???
In hindsight it does make sence because the 50CT never was checking for the floppy 
drive-a BIOS function I presume?

Thanks again,
Jason



On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:00:32   
 neil barnes wrote:
>Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:57:10
>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: 50ct same problem as Alex
>
>I've just stuck up a copy of the ct50 bios at 
>www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/Binaries/1014v650.exe
>
>I think you need to put that on a 720k floppy and boot from that with f12 
>key down. Maybe it helps!
>
>
>Neil
>
>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: 50ct same problem as Alex
>>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:05:37 -0800
>>
>>Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:52:28 GMT
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: 50ct same problem as Alex
>>
>>Not really the same problem.  My 810 runs just fine.  Heck, I've even (bad,
>>bad!) pulled out the 810 after the boot and popped in the 4.3, but to no
>>avail.  The 4.3 spins up as well btw...
>>
>>Alex
>>
>>
>>jason bates writes:
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:46:34 -0700
>> > From: "jason bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Subject: 50ct same problem as Alex
>> >
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I'm having what appears to be the same problem as Alex:
>> >
>> > I installed a 20 gig HD on my libretto 50 ct which worked fine for about 
>>one day while I installed win95 then win98.  I left the win 98 install at 
>>about 80% and when I came back it will initialize the memory and then stall 
>>for about 5 min.
>> >
>> > Using a boot disk, there was once a message that said something like 
>>"...because there is no hard drive installed."  The HD is getting power 
>>because it is spinning, and now THE OLD 800 mb HD does the exact same 
>>thing.
>> >
>> > ????
>> > Jason Bates
>> > ---
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:05:29
>> >  neil barnes wrote:
>> > >Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 18:04:22
>> > >From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >Subject: Re: Need some urgent Libretto 50CT help...
>> > >
>> > >below...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >>Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >>To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >>Subject: Re: Need some urgent Libretto 50CT help...
>> > >>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:00:30 -0800
>> > >>
>> > >>Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:48:21 GMT
>> > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >>Subject: Re: Need some urgent Libretto 50CT help...
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>Neil,
>> > >>
>> > >>   I tried thata this morning and has no luck.  I pulled out the drive 
>>and
>> > >>turned on the 50 with out the pcmcia floppy.  After a while it gave 
>>the
>> > >>"Please insert disk.." message.  I turned it off, inserted the new
>> > >ok so far...
>> > >
>> > >hd,
>> > >>turned it on.  Waited and waited, got the "Please insert disk..",
>> > >um...not good...
>> > >
>> > >turned it
>> > >>off, put in the pcmcia floppy, turned it back on.  I got the "Please 
>>insert
>> > >>disk.." message, but could not access the floppy.  Also, I noticed 
>>that
>> > >
>> > >um...very not good...does it see the disk when you try and load the 
>>bios?
>> > >I've not gone beyond 6.5, does everything i need to do :)
>> > >
>> > >>that "please insert.." message appears somewhere in the middle of the 
>>bios
>> > >>init, because it doesn't even prompt me for the bios password.
>> > >
>> > >that doesn't surprise me, it's almost *got* to check the hardware 
>>before
>> > >running the OS
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>   This is really very weird, as the HD does indeed work.. could it be 
>>that
>> > >>it's failing because I've formatted already on a different machine?  
>>Should
>> > >
>> > >There should be no problem there...don't *ever* low-level format an IDE 
>>disk
>> > >(actually you'll have a job getting the software to do it, it's
>> > >manufacturer/type specific)
>> > >
>> > >>I low level it?  How does the Libretto bios detect that it needs to 
>>create
>> > >>the hibernation partition... :-)
>> > >
>> > >It sees how much it's got, and when the format program asks the bios 
>>how
>> > >much to format, it lies to windows. This is not a sin :)
>> > >
>> > >Thinks - is this one of the disks that has a master/slave select
>> > >requirement? (I'm pretty certain it's a standard tosh drive)
>> > >Did you format it as a slave in the desktop?
>> > >
>> > >Neil
>> > >
>> > >
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