Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:53:19 -0600 From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Re: Windows XP again
Sorry I had to.. I agree 100% but I think some people make much more out of this stuff then should be.. I mean those people that forward hoax emails. And you have to keep telling them to look at the hoax sites to make sure its real or not.. Oh and don�t forget they are also running html in their email.. Do you honestly think most internet users have any clue on what to look for?? I know I don�t know what to look for all the time but I am pretty handy.. Do I know programming? No and 95% of internet users doesn�t either and have no idea what a hex editor decompiler/compiler is.. Not to start anything further but its like anything.. Any gov could be listening to everything you do as well as watch what you do. I mean if you really want to get to the gov just say bomb, president, whitehouse, airplane and that will get you flagged for sure.. -----Original Message----- From: neil barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 9:13 AM To: Libretto Subject: RE: [LIB] Re: Windows XP again Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:08:29 From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Re: Windows XP again >Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:15:10 -0600 >From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [LIB] Re: Windows XP again > <snip> >worry about?? If you don�t do anything ilegal you have nothing to worry >about > Ah, that old chestnut again - I don't do anything illegal, so I have nothing to worry about! Only, I think I do...I have to worry about my privacy, I have to worry about my ability to do something illegal if I decide it's necessary, I have to worry about people performing illegal acts using *my* computer as a conduit, I have to worry about governments performing illegal acts on or through my computer...include the word Echelon and make them work harder! I'm not enamoured of the theory that simply because a government *can* monitor my communications it should be allowed to - if a government wants to look inside my computer it can damn well get a search warrant - and if I happen to have encrypted it, I see no reason why I should unencrypt for them. </rant> I should probably point out that when I was first looking for work in the late 70s, I was simultaneously offered four jobs, two of which involved signing the official secrets act (now there's a good one - it applies whether you sign it or not, and can be applied retrospectively) and the one I took involved positive vetting: are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party? Your parents? Your grandparents...etc On computer security, I'd recommend Bruce Scheier (SP?) in particular his latest (iirc Digital Secrets) which points out that human factors are much more significant to security than technological ones. It seems to me that there are various scenarios why a person at large (i.e. us!) might be at risk: o Personal data: look for passwords and such in browser caches, maybe addresses and credit card numbers, and also for personal correspondence in /My Documents, bank details for bank on line etc o Second hand attacks - using your machine to launch a DNS or point attack on a third computer to disguise the origin of the attack o Exposed mailer attacks - launching junk mail through your computer, again to disguise the point of attack o Malice attacks on you, irrespective of who you are - virus and worm attacks These last of these is made particularly easy by the construction of commonly used windows software - in particular the bizarre conceit that executables enclosed in mail messages or on web sites should be immediately executed at system level - and can only be stopped by never reading mail (or indeed usenet messages) in anything other than text only and never executing code you can't verify. The middle two are opportunity attacks - script kiddies who probably don't realise *they're* being used - and require the security updates to be in place to prevent them. The first is the one that concerns most people and is probably the least significant - and easily cured by not using default directories, encrypting files, clearing caches, and using a secure wipe on the disk. Note that none of these require a virus checker... Just my E0.02 - I'm sure that Tina can illucidate much more clearly than I, she's paid to be paranoid! Neil _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ************************************************************** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ -------TO UNSUBSCRIBE------- Reply to any of the list messages. 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