Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:48:53
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Japlish translations ( was Re: [LIB] Libretto 70 )

Some comments below, but I don't know the answers to a lot, particularly the 
hairy lightbulb which got missed out of my last build of 98 onto this 
disk...I'm away from home for a couple of months and I'm playing with 
*nothing* :)
<pres>
>I missed this before, and would like to add, clarify, and ask some things
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Here ya go....
> > ---------------------------
<neil>
> >
> > Here's the biz on the BIOS controls (for the 50/70 - YMMV for later
>models)
> > - the windows utility is just another way of getting to them, and you 
>have
> > to use two (the system thingy and the hairy lightbulb) to make it do 
>what
> > you want if you go through the desktop rather than direct.
> >
> > It appears that the esc key doesn't always get you into the bios if you
>have
> > a hibernated image...
> >
> > in the OTHERS section:
> >
> > o Power-up Mode: this should really be called power *down* mode.
> >     - Hibernation: save the ram and screen contents to hard disk when
> >       the power switch is pressed (or screen closed if enabled),
> >       restore from disk when the system is powered up again.
> >        - OPTION: Standby Time: After the system is allegedly powered
> >          down, it turns of the disk and processor and goes into
> >          standby. At this point, it can be restarted instantly by
> >          hitting the power button or opening the screen (if enabled).
> >          After a delay equal to the standby time, the image is written
> >          to disk and the system closed down completely.
>
>PRES> not exactly. It writes the hibernate-to-disk image immediately, then
>goes to RAM-suspend.
>

Yes, I wasn't clear. I mention it below...

>
> >          Note the two special cases: 0min means it saves to disc
> >          immediately, and Unlimited means 'keep things in memory until
> >          the battery dies'. In all cases, it saves to disc first so
> >          losing your battery shouldn't lose data.

I note that the 50 hibernate cancels if the backspace key is pressed during 
the process, while on the 70 it doesn't.

>
>Yes. There is no way to RAM-suspend without HDD-hibernation.
>
>But waking from hibernation or suspend is tricky... serial ports don't wake
>up well, and for that and other reasons I prefer to shut down completely. I
>find a full boot is close to the speed of a wake-up/refresh...

I *never* try and hibernate win95 or 98 - it has never been reliable. Linux 
hibernates fine *provided* you don't try and move the mouse in the first ten 
seconds or so. It still wakes, but it takes a few minutes. The screen may be 
in the wrong position but it corrects itself when the mouse hits a boundary.

>
>
> >     - Boot: turn the machine off/on from power switch or screen closure
> >       (if enabled). Do not save any data. May talk to the operating
> >       system and issue a shutdown command but depends on operating 
>system.
>
>There is a distinct difference between my 50US/50J and my 110US. The power
>button in the 100 ( and possibly lower, and probably higher versions ) will
>cause hibernate-->off OR full power down if held 4 sec. but the 50 will
>never fully power off if it is set in BIOS in "hibernate mode"

Nor the 70. A distinct pain in the rear to have to remove the battery and 
power cables to force a hard 'off'.

>
> >
> > o CPU Cache: Controls how the CPU buffers data between itself and the
> >   main memory. Experts only.
> >     - Disabled: Make the machine very slow. Use only for diagnostics,
> >       or if you have a particularly badly behaved piece of software
> >       with self-modifying code that defeats the cache logic.    - 
>Enabled:
> >        - OPTION: Write-through: Every memory write is copied
> >          immediately to the main memory. This is very safe but means
> >          that all writes are restricted in speed to that of the main
> >          memory.
> >        - OPTION: Write-back: Memory writes only occur when the space in
> >          the cache is required for something else, or at shutdown. This
> >          is faster for the vast majority of code, and should probably
> >          be the default option.
> >
> > o System Auto Off: Only appears if 'Hibernation' is selected. This sets
> >   the delay between the last keypress/mouse movement and an automatic
> >   hibernation. Unfortunately it can't tell the difference between 'the
> >   user has given up for a while' and 'the user is part-way though a ten-
> >   hour compilation phase' so I tend to disable this.
> >
> > o Alarm Volume: sets the volume of the beep for system warnings:
> >    - OPTION: Low Battery Alarm: beeps when the battery gets below about
> >      10% capacity. This is a bit vague as some batteries seem to run a
> >      long time after 0%.
> >    - OPTION: Panel Close Alarm: beeps when the lid is closed. You
> >      probably don't want this if you're going to be running with the
> >      lid closed.
>
>Well, it only beeps a while, like 10 sec.
>
> >
> > o Panel Power On/Off: Only appears when hibernation mode is selected.
> >    - Enabled: force a hibernation (with any delay you may have set)
> >      when the lid is closed.
> >    - Disabled: leave the processor running but kill the power to the
> >      display to save power.
> >
> > o Alarm Power On: Allows you to set a time and date at which the
> >   processor will spring to life. I have yet to find any sensible use
> >   for this option :) though it can be set to work at the same time on a
> >   daily basis.
> >   Note that if you enable it, it cannot be disabled except by exiting
> >   without saving or waiting for the alarm to occur. Bad Toshiba, bad!
> >
> > o Pointing Devices: Decide which mouse port will be active.
> >    - Auto-selected: use an external mouse if one is found on the serial
> >      port, otherwise use the mouse-button.
> >    - Simultaneous: accept inputs from both the mouse-button and an
> >      external mouse. Note that Windows sees nothing wrong with
> >      believing two mice travelling in opposite directions. It will also
> >      happily accept a 'shift' key on one keyboard as affecting another.
> >      Windows is like the Red Queen and can believe in six impossible
> >      things before breakfast.
> >
> > o Boot Priority: Decide which order it should search for a boot sector.
> >    - FDD->HDD: Look for an external floppy first. This is the default
> >      and probably safest option.
> >    - HDD->FDD: Look on the hard disk first, and only look for a floppy
> >      if the hard disk image fails. This is slightly faster to boot, and
> >      should be slightly more secure (until a miscreant finds a way into
> >      the bios) if you need to prohibit external booting. But not very.
> >
> > Hope this is of some use...
> >
>
>PRES> I would very much like to continue this thread. When we get it all
>sorted out place all the translations somewhere.
>
>Unfortunately I don't have either of my Librettos with me, but I remember
>some anomalies.
>
>Hairy Lightbulb:
>
>1    They toss around the terms "hibernate" "suspend" and "resume" all in
>one screen in the system options. Please explain.

The theory is that 'hibernate' is to disc, 'suspend' is to ram, resume is 
from either.

>
>2    Under display options, again, the verbiage is terrible. Under "used
>devices" they say something like "display will power down unless the mouse
>is idle for..." and I am sure they mean the display will stay on but the 
>HDD
>will spin down is a user is mousing or typing, but it's hard to understand
>how to set these checks.

I think the other way around - display blanks if no mouse or keyboard - no 
use if you're trying to watch a movie.

>
>So, say I want the HDD to spin down ( unless needed ) in 5 minutes. I want
>the display to go dark after 10 minutes, only after I stop typing or
>mousing. But I want the HDD to spin down immediately when I close the
>display. Apparently the HDD can be spun down when the display is turned 
>off,
>presumably by the panel being closed. What would be the settings?

Heh, dunno.

>
>3    The "Toshiba Power Saver Driver for Windows 98"- what does it do? It 
>is
>NOT the hairy lightbulb. The hairy lightbulb is good because it, unlike
>Win98, has separate actions for on or off A/C power, and also the screen
>brightness options. All the "Driver" seems to do is create a new profile in
>Win98's power options called "Toshiba" which is pretty much like "Always
>On"... but it does add a powersave.vxd- does anyone know the reason for 
>that
>file?

<sarcasm> I think it's to make sure there's something running to make sure 
that the shutdown doesn't work :)

>
>In Win98 should you use it? Plus the hairy lightbulb? I have both.
>
>For the experimental, the hairy lightbulb from other models has been known
>to work with some success. I believe the one from the Satellite Pro 4320
>does some nice stuff, like play a different .WAV file at different battery
>depletion levels. I forget if it was fully successful.
>
>4    Start...suspend or start...shut down...suspend makes it hibernate to
>disk... does it also do RAM suspend?
>
>Is it possible to have three ( or six ) distinct off options?
>
>A    power KILL to reset a locked computer ( available by holding the power
>button in the 100 )
Not on the 50/70 - note also that the reset button is soft and frequently 
doesn't...

>B    hibernate to disk, and suspend to RAM
Yes

>C    hibernate to disk and power off
Yes

>
>and could it be start...suspend does one thing, pressing the power button
>does another, and closing the lid does a third?
>
>My ideal would be
>
>on battery: close the lid makes it hibernate-->RAM suspend, open it comes 
>on
>instantly ( PIM )
>power does OFF ( same as start...shut down unless the OS is unresponsive,
>then keep pressing )
>start...suspend does hibernate-->off
>
>on A/C: much the same except closing the lid turns off the light and spins
>down the HDD immediately, but it otherwise remains on.
>
>If someone could take a look at these confusing nomenclatures I would
>appreciate it.
>
>I may repost all questions to the group sometime when I have both machines
>handy.
>
>BTW, back in BIOS on the L100, the PCMCIA type is useful to switch between
>PCIC-Compatible and CardBus. I have two cards that will NOT work unless
>specifically set. And AUTO does not work.
>
>Thanks
>
>Pres Waterman W2PW
>c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
>Long Island Ford and Kia dealer
>
>GO BILLS!
>
>
>
>
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