Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:44:47
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] L50 w/damaged sound chip or fuse on MB?


>Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:03:19 +0000
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: L50 w/damaged sound chip or fuse on MB?

>
>I can no longer run my sound driver in the L50.  The only thing I can think
>of that caused this problem would be trying to set up the HP M820E CD-R/RW
>drive�s SCSI card on the L50 w/P75 CPU.  The CPU requirement for the HP
>drive is a P133.  At the same time, I set up the WavJammer SCSI sound card
>on the EPR�s PC card slot.  Is it possible that setting up these two SCSI
>cards simultaneously, one that wasn�t rated for this system, could have
>caused the SCSI card to overheat, and thus damage the Yamaha OPL3-Sax chip
>on the MB?
>
>Let me preface the rest of this by saying that my L50 is stock, not
>overclocked, and the HDD spacers have not been removed.  Here�s the rest of
>the story:
>
>The other night I installed the drivers for this HP CD-R/RW drive, and for
>the WavJammer sound card, onto a 6.4GB HDD in my L50.  I had to

Is your 6.4G drive 8.5mm?

>disable the
>onboard Yamaha driver to get the WavJammer drivers working, but all went
>well at that point.  The CD-R/RW drive actually played music CDs fine via
>its line-out plug.
>
>Everything worked fine until I finished running some audio recording tests,
>removed the HP and WavJammer drivers, and rebooted.  When the desktop
>appeared as a solid color, the mouse pointer froze along with the system.
>After trying a few things, I ended up disabling the sound driver in Safe
>Mode.  That got the system to do a full boot where the system worked fine.
>
>The next night I put my old 750MB HDD into the L50 to back up files and
>prepare for a Mandrake installation.  I could swear that the system booted
>with the sound driver enabled with no problem.   Not remembering the system
>needed a P133 at this point, I went ahead and installed the drivers for the
>CD-R/RW drive onto this HDD too.
>
>But the system did not like trying to load and run Nero, and suddenly I
>realized why (not enough CPU power), as the system froze in the process.  I
>booted into Safe Mode, uninstalled Nero and the CD-R/RW drivers, and
>rebooted.  But it turned out that the system froze at the same point 
>booting
>into the desktop as it did with the 6.4GB HD the night before.  Went back
>into Safe Mode, disabled the sound driver, and all was well.
>
>But I was wondering, was this an OS problem that I somehow caused on two
>HDDS?  Or is this a hardware problem related to the sound chip on the MB?
>
>So I copied the Win98 installation files to the HDD, booted into DOS, ran
>attrib and deltree to delete everything else, and installed Win98 onto the
>750MB HDD.  But when Windows finishing setting up and booted into the
>desktop, everything froze.  Disabling the sound driver in Safe Mode fixed
>the problem again.
>
>Okay� I wanted to have Win95 on that drive to experiment with installing
>Mandrake from a CD-ROM.  So I repeated the process and installed Win95.
>Same problem.  Froze booting the desktop.  Disabling sound in Safe Mode got
>the system to fully boot and run.
>
>So here was the last test.  I deleted the L50 sound driver, put the 750MB
>HDD into my L70, and when Windows asked for the sound driver, I fed it the
>L70 sound driver via FDD� and TAH DA!� the �Microsoft Sound.Wav� chimed out
>fine.  No sound problems with the HDD on the L70.
>
>Now the only thing I noticed when the problem first manifested, was that 
>the
>bottom of the L50 seemed fire hot when I pulled out the CD-R/RW and
>WavJammer SCSI cards.  Again, I wonder if those cards could have caused the
>sound chip to overheat.
>
>Or could there be another magic fuse fix here Neil?
>
>All input will be greatly appreciated� though I fear the worst.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Matt

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Um...I don't have much of an idea here. A control card that requires more 
CPU power should just run slowly - it needs it to get data on and off the 
pcmcia card, because there is no DMA route (IIRC).

Overheating cards is a possibility, though i've never seen it affect just 
the sound. However, sudden lockups talking to pc cards were a symptom of my 
last 50 overheating - though in that case it was a modem card.

There isn't a fuse AFAIK that just deals with the sound card - can't see why 
they'd want one, really.

One thought is that the interrupts and DMAs from the sound card have got 
severely screwed - you could check them in the bios - possibly something 
colliding with the other two cards?

Last thing - the sound chip has several modes of operation: an eight bit 
only soundblaster emulation, a sixteen bit yamaha mode, and a sixteen bit 
windows sound system mode. The windows sound is only eight bits mono...could 
be it's only working in that mode for whatever reason.

Neil


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