Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 08:24:31 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length exposition :)

>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 18:06:01 +0000
>>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length
>>exposition :)
>>
>>This is all very informative and interesting indeed.  But you're going to 
>>have to hammer at me a bit more here (where's that BFH?).  Raymond asked 
>>this question, and got the reply that follows from David:
>>
>>>>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>>OK you got me curious ... why is the LACK of a fast lens an advantage?
>>>
>>>From: David Chien:
>>>Lots of depth of field with slow lenses, thus no worry or thinking at all 
>>>about is that in focus or what f/stop do I use.  Can't do it = don't 
>>>think about it = less to think about in the field.<<<
>>
>>Is it me, or is there something that isn't computing here when David says, 
>>"Lots of depth of field with slow lenses..."  And then goes on to say, as 
>>my feeble reckoning abilities manage to grasp, that there will be less 
>>worries about focusing because of the slow lense... which again, seems to 
>>have, "Lots of depth of field..."<<
>>
>>Did I mention that it seems that it appears David is saying that slow 
>>lenses have lots of depth of field?  :-D<<
>>
>>Shmatt...


>I think David is mistaken or has mistyped. With a slow lens you have lots 
>of depth of field *control*: the depth of field is small which means you 
>can use it to isolate elements of the composition. <

Aw shoot... Just when I thought I had David's explanation down, now I have 
to get the broom and clean up these shattered pieces of comprehension I was 
so confident with a few minutes ago.

It made sense when David said:

  "Slow lens is a lens with a large aperture value when set
   wide open (when the lens lets in as much light as it can),
   eg. f/5.6.A fast lens is a lens with a small aperture value,
   eg. f/1.8."

If the definition of a "slow lens" is as David describes, then I can see 
where such a lens would be limited to slower shutter speeds when the lens is 
wide open, compared to the higher shutter speed capability of a wide open 
lens with a f/1.8 aperture value.

And it made sense that if a lens is only capable of the highest aperture 
value of 5.8 or greater, then I'd think that it WOULD in fact be limited to 
the larger f/stops with higher depth of field.  No?


>However, you must have good control of the focus to achieve this. Not what 
>you want for point and click, and not what you want when you can't see a 
>viewfinder image with the same resolutiuon as the final image.<
>
>Of course, one point I didn't mention - the depth of field is also 
>proportional to the resolution of the image sensor - if that is low, then 
>the depth of field is effectively increased, in that the image is equally 
>soft either side of the focus point.<

Let's see... if the image sensor resolution is low, then depth of field is 
high.  You getting this Raymond?

Off to try to slow down these spinning wheels...

Matt



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