Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:49:48 -0700 From: "Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Tom's PCMCIA HDD and CS&S problems
Matt, Thanks for all the tips, but it still comes down to needing Card Socket Services. I currently have the IBM 20Gig in the Lib100, SYSed, and bootable. But I can't use anything except the Libby floppy drive, as the PCMCIA HD box and PCMCIA CD drive fail to recognize. I've searched all over for drivers, and have tried many different types, with no luck. I've tried Toshibas technotes for getting a CD to boot, but they seem to be specific to Tosh/Noteworthy CD drives, and the config.sys/autoexec.bat drivers I have with my no-name PCMCIA drive aren't working in the Lib (this drive works fine in Windows from what I can remember). Does ANYONE have some Card Socket Services install files from some old Toshiba system laying around? Or any other brand that might work (CardSoft)? I'm probably going to jack the old and new HD into my work machine and copy them across, but I REALLY want to build some floppies so I don't have to do that every time I upgrade a drive in my multiple Librettos. Matthew Hanson wrote: > Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 18:47:52 +0000 > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Tom's PCMCIA HDD and CS&S problems > > I wrote Tom off list, but am posting his reply to the list, as it may > explain his problems better. I only had one thought to add (below): > > >From: "Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>Matthew Hanson wrote: > >>>From: "Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>>Help me before I go insane! > >>> > >>>I'm trying to get a 20Gig HD installed in my Lib100, and for the life of > >>>me, I can't remember how I got the one installed in my 110 (I remember > >>>fighting with a ton of floppies).<<< > > >>Are we looking at an IBM HDD here? Is the problem getting the HDD set up? > >>Specifially is the problem just with the overlay software? > > >Yes, because as soon as I have the overlay on and the disk formatted, I > >can't access it as a slave drive in the PCMCIA drive enclosure. > > > >I've tried Ghosting the 110 drive to the 100 drive, but I can't get > the 3Com 3C589D card working with the Ghost boot floppy. It USED to, but the > 3C589.com errors out now, and I'm not sure what I'm missing - I've been all > over 3Com's site, and tried the driver install downloads multiple times. > The card works, as I can use it in Win98 on the 110.< > > >>From what you're saying, it seems you do have access to the HDD in the > >>L100. Have you been able to boot the L100 with at boot FD, fdisk the HDD, > >>and format it?<< > > >Yep. But at that point, I'm stuck. I can't load Win98 from CD because the > >drivers for the generic PCMCIA CD drive say Card Socket services need to be > >loaded first.< > > >>>Since I have to use IBM's Disk Manager, it seems the Ontrack overlay > >>>screws my chances of simply dropping the new 20Gig HD into a PCMCIA > >>>case<<< > > >>Whoa... "dropping the new 20Gig HD into a PCMCIA case" ?? Is there some > >>kind of PCMCIA adaptor you can plug a HDD into, and then plug the other > >>end of the adaptor into on of the L110's PCMCIA slots?<< > > >Yes, I bought it a couple of years ago for the L50 810Meg HD, so that I > >could transfer it to the new 4.3Gig for the L50.< > > >>>and jacking it in, copying files to it - when I jack it into the 110 (or > >>>the 100 with the original 2.1G HD), it loads the drivers, but doesn't see > >>>the single 2Gig partition I have on there so far.<<< > > >>I'm really confused... You say, "- when I jack it into the 110 (or the 100 > >>with the original 2.1G HD)..." Are you plugging the 20GB HDDinto a > >>PCMCIA port on the L110?<< > > >Yes, after I realized that I couldn't get the CD copied onto the HD the > >normal way, installing the HD into the Libretto and booting it.< > > >>>At this point, I don't necessarily want to Ghost over the old drive, > >>>since each system might be used for different things, and I think I want > >>>to start completely fresh. But if I can get the 3Com3C589D card working, > >>>I guess I might Ghost it over - does anyone use this card, and if so, > >>>what files do you use for a DOS boot floppy to get it to work?<<< > >>> > >>>So, on to the actual Subject of the email. It seems the PCMCIA CD drive > >>>I have has the drivers for DOS (and I KNOW they've worked, I used to have > >>>a boot floppy with card socket services on it SOMEWHERE), but no card > >>>socket services.<<< > >>> > >>>If I can get some DOS card socket services that work with the Lib110, I > >>>can create a boot floppy that will allow CD access, and install nice > >>>andfresh.<<< > >>> > >>>And before people tell me to just format the HD in the Lib, move it to a > >>>desktop, and copy the CAB files over, remember the IBM overlay - it seems > >>>to be screwing with the ability of the Lib100 with Win98 to read the > >>>drive, so I'm not holding my breath about plugging it into my Win98 > >>>desktop and reading it either.<<< > > >>Sounds like the overlay isn't installed right. Am I correct in concluding > >>that somehow you have indeed managed to install SOMETHING on the 20GB HDD > >>that you don't want to loose? If not, I'd start over. Can you uninstall > >>the overlay? You may not need to. I'm not certain, but wonder if it'd be > >>possible to delete your partitions, repartition, "fdisk /mbr" to create a > >>fresh MBR, and then try installing the overlay with a different method if > >>that's possible.<< > > >The overlay works, I can boot the L100 with the drive inside. But if I put > >the original 2.1Gig back in, boot to Win98, and try to access the 20Gig > >using the external PCMCIA case, Win98 loads the PCMCIA HD drivers, but then > >refuses to show any extra drives in Explorer. It's either because of the > >overlay (more likely), or the fact that the 20G also has an active > >partition.< > > Here's where I'm guessing your problem may be Tom. From what I understand, > the overlay only writes part of its info in the MBR. It puts a pointer in > there to the first cluster of your HDD where the rest of its data is > located. Thus in order to get the overlay to work properly, I'd think the > HDD would have to be booted, and not used as a slave. > > Matt > > >>Again, I'm assuming this is an IBM HDD since you mentioned, "Since I have > >>to use IBM's Disk Manager". Is this "Ontrack overlay" part of that, or > >>something not from IBM? Would it be possible to try EZDrive with the > >>EZBIOS overlay?<< > > >I suppose, but that really isn't the issue. IBM's Disk Manager is >working > >fine. I just need some DOS Card Socket Services. > > > >-- > >Tom Stangl > >***http://www.vfaq.com/ > >***DSM Visual FAQ home > >***http://ba.dsm.org/ > >***SF Bay Area DSMs > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > ************************************************************** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > -------TO UNSUBSCRIBE------- > Reply to any of the list messages. 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