Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 21:08:04 +0200
From: Daniel Fenert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] RE: How to Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD?

W dniu Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 10:44:05AM -0700, Matt Hanson wystukał(a):
>> Of course it multitask :), 
>
>Heh... I guess it ought to, huh? :-D  But I guess you
>answered what I was curious about... and that is that
>your Slackware setup seems to have at >least< the
>resources left over that the W98SE setup on my 50 did
>playing MP3s with MM, if not a bit more.

(This email is written on libretto with mp3 playing)
Under Linux you can measure resaurces, so I can tell exactly how much resurces
are free :)
Here it goes:
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system    cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in   cs  us  sy id
 1  0  0   1132    816   1320  21972   0   0    26     0  216   58  76   7 17
 1  0  1   1132    816   1320  21972   0   0    26     0  213   56  73   7 20
 1  0  0   1132    848   1320  21940   0   0    19     0  221   90  79  10 11
 1  0  0   1132    848   1320  21940   0   0    26     0  222   71  75   8 17
 1  0  0   1132    876   1320  21908   0   0    26     0  203   40  70   6 24
 1  0  0   1132    880   1320  21908   0   0    26     0  204   44  70   6 24
 1  0  0   1132    880   1320  21908   0   0    26     0  206   41  70   6 24

Here are 5sec averages for my libretto, first 4 lines was when I was writing
to you, last 3 are when I was reading and copying this statistics :)
Interesting things: last 3 columns means CPU: User/System/Idle.
User -- decompressing mp3, runnig other programs etc.
System -- usually driver ('playing') and IO operations (reading hdd for ex)
Idle -- idle :)
The other things interesting: cache - means how much memory is used for disk
caching (almost 22MB). Se memory usage is: 5584KB, and free memory is 24140KB,
the rest is used by kernel and other things.

>> if I need to get something that I can't get with
>> 'links' its usable :)
>
>Lynx!!  Wow... people are still using Lynx!  Brings
>back memories of setting up MOSAIC for the 1st time.

Links is a (MUCH) better version of lynx, it has really good table and frames
support :)
Besides, it's actively developed, latest versions have some javascript support
and graphical version (using svgalib or X servers).
(from time to time i'm using good old lynx too :)

>> I'm running Slackware 8.1.
>
>Okay... I'd guess it's going to be more resource
>friendly on the 50 that v10... yes?

Not really, 

>> I had problems with Slackware 10 - many oopses
>> preventing from installing - till 
>> now I have no idea why... It wasn't memory issue for
>> sure.  When I'll need bigger drive, I'll play with 
>> it again maybe :)
>Well... I've toyed with Linux off and on from as far
>back as 1996, but it's always ended up being way to
>complicated for my limited understanding for how it
>works.

Slackware didn't change for all those years, but other distros should
be much easier to use :)

>And if I can get a version of Linux set up, and a
>sound card going that will do the job, I could create
>a partition on my 40GB HDD specifically for that.  By
>that point I may well have a 80GB HDD or larger to
>house all my MP3s.

:)

>> Mandrake is usually HUGE, it takes much to do some
>> tweaking, stopping not nedeed deamons etc.
>
>Neil actually got the initial installation of Mandrake
>on our 50s pared down pretty substantially.  And then
>he chose a shell (iceman?) that was as resource
>friendly as he could find.  But I could never get MP3s
>to play on it and have as much in terms of resources
>left over as my MM/W98SE setup on the 50.

Possibly the main reason was using X Window, I'm using text console for 95% of
time :)

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