Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:44:41 +0000 From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
From: John Musielewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--- Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Libretto will write > hibernation data onto a hard drive. It seems you > have determined that it > should be possible for Win2K to override the 100/110 > Libby's native > BIOS/CMOS calls, and have the system write > hibernation data to the end of > the HDD. If that's true, I'd still like to see you > perform a test as David
i have under xp, 2000, linux 2.4 and 2.6
Huh... interesting. I'll have to give the test a go when I can find a replacement for the 110 MB that I found floating belly-up in the Libretto bowl a few weeks back.
Could you elaborate on the specifics of the tests you ran? What the process was, and what the results were. I'm really curious about all this.
> But I can tell you with 100% certainty that if we're > talking about Windows > 98(SE) on a Libretto, it's >always< going to > hibernate at the 8GB boundry on > a HDD. Unlike yourself from what I've gathered from
that is because, like I posted, that me, 98, 95, 3.1 and dos only see 8 gig.
By that, I assume you're saying that you don't have a copy of Windows 98SE... yes? W98SE manages to see beyond 8GB, though I'll be darned if I can get any installation of it not to develop file errors somewhere along the way without drive overlay installed. I know you and Philip have managed well without it. But I hammered at it for a good couple of months, and never found any way to resolve W98SE complaining about corrupted files without DO installed. The problem may be due to the fact that >much< of the data on this drive has been passed down many, many generations of HDDs I've had in my Libbys.
> Now again, I see the potential for your argument > that Win2K may override > the Libby BIOS/CMOS calls. But I've read no reports > of anyone having > successfully tested the theory.
every time I hibernate!!
By that, are you saying that tests that you have been doing have just involved hibernating, waking up from hibernation, and then not see any problems develop with the OS as a result? If that's what you've been using as evidence to support your theory that W2K & WXP are writing the hibernation to the end of the >8GB HDDs, it >is< an indication, but it's not fully convincing evidence.
The test the rest of us have run has been this:
* Open Notepad. Write a few words. While Notepad is open, hibernate.
* Recover from the hibernated state.
* Open WinHex or some other hex editor, and do a search of the entire drive space for the text you had written in Notepad.
* Note which cylinders and/or sectors where the text was located, and calculate where on the HDD the data was found.
With WinHex, it's easy enough to see approximately where the location of the data is with relation to the beginning and end of the drive. The slider on the right edge of the hex data window corresponds to the position of the data being displayed relative to the beginning and end of the drive. If it's at the end of the drive when you find the text you search for, your argument that W2K's BIOS/CMOS calls supercede the Libby's will be undeniably confirmed. And at that point the rest of us here on the list will be able to be more confident when advising newcomers with questions about all this.
oh I'm not that bad. I just grew up in the 'if it was like that in the past its like that now era' and all that attitude does is annoy and irritate me. Things change almost daily and people always need to update their knowledge accordingly otherwise it puts out the idea that computer scientists and engineers are liars when they aren't -- they just are not up with the technology they are dealing with.
You're definitely right that the technology changes faster than most of us can keep up with it all. And I have to say that I was skeptical about what you were describing about W2K & hibernation. But when you suggested that W2K may override the Libby's BIOS calls, it made me reconsider things. Until I see proper test results though, I�ll reserve my opinions on all this.
I�d love to run the W2K/hibernations test I described above this myself right now though... Anyone have a 110 motherboard they might want to sell? :-D
Matt
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