See below ... On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 02:51:10PM -0700, Lawrence Rosen wrote: > Forwarding.... /Larry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Milinkovich [mailto:mike.milinkov...@eclipse.org] > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:41 PM > To: ftf-le...@fsfeurope.org; license-discuss@opensource.org > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] [FTF-Legal] Proposal: Apache Third Party > License Policy > > On 20/05/2015 4:40 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote: > > Apache Legal JIRA-218 asked: > >>> >>My question is about whether "Eclipse Public License -v 1.0" > >>> >>is compatible with our Apache License 2.0. > >>> >>I couldn't find an answer > >>> >>on https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html. > > This was at addressed in the now apparently defunct ASF document entitled > "Drafted (and out of date) Third-Party Licensing Policy" that Cliff Schmidt > wrote years ago. You can still find the text of the document at [1]. > Unfortunately the version that is linked from the Apache Legal page[2] has > somehow been mangled. As far as I know, that document was used for quite a > few years as the main guidance for Apache projects on these topics. I am not > quite sure why it was deprecated without a replacement.
The old document [1] does have a replacement: at [3] http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html The old draft was continually mis-referenced. In eventual frustration, it was deliberately replaced with only the source version of the document, i.e. not really as "mangled", but discontinued yet available for history. For a long time there is a very clear statement at the old draft [1]: "This document represented a *proposed* ASF policy that was very helpful in guiding the foundation for a number of years. Please refer to the official version (resolved.html)[3] that was derived from this draft and associated feedback. " Mike and Larry, would you please follow-up to correct this at the other mail lists where this misguidance was propagated (see Cc). Mark Thomas has separately addressed the EPL. -David > The fact that a > reference to the EPL wasn't migrated to [3] just seems kinda weird. > > In that document, the EPL was included in the list of "Category B: > Reciprocal Licenses". As I understand it, the guidance to ASF projects was > the EPL-licensed binaries could be distributed by Apache projects, but that > the source should be only available by reference. It is my understanding > that Apache projects do distribute EPL-licensed modules, such as the Eclipse > Compiler for Java (ecj). > > One thing that seems sort of weird is that the release notes[4] for Apache > Tomcat 7 contains a notice(*) regarding the use of ecj under the EPL. But > the release notes[5] for Tomcat v8.0 does not contain the notice, even > though the "ecj-4.4.2.jar (Eclipse JDT Java compiler)" is listed as a > bundled dependency. > > Hope that helps. > > [1] > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/archive/legal/3pa > rty.mdtext > [2] http://apache.org/legal/ > [3] http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html > [4] https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/RELEASE-NOTES.txt > [5] https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/RELEASE-NOTES.txt > > (*) In addition, Tomcat 7.0 uses the Eclipse JDT Java compiler for compiling > JSP pages. This means you no longer need to have the complete Java > Development Kit (JDK) to run Tomcat, but a Java Runtime Environment > (JRE) is sufficient. The Eclipse JDT Java compiler is bundled with the > binary Tomcat distributions. Tomcat can also be configured to use the > compiler from the JDK to compile JSPs, or any other Java compiler supported > by Apache Ant. > > -- > Mike Milinkovich > mike.milinkov...@eclipse.org > +1.613.220.3223 (mobile) > > _______________________________________________ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@opensource.org > http://projects.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscr...@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-h...@apache.org > _______________________________________________ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@opensource.org http://projects.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss
