USG patents aren't public domain, and USG can and does license them for royalties. I believe there are a handful of examples of USG filing infringement suits as well.
> On Aug 18, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Brian Behlendorf <br...@behlendorf.com> wrote: > > > Do those follow the same rules as copyright? E.g., when done by a USG > employee, it's public domain in the US? > > Seems like those should get covered by whatever folks come up with. > > Brian > >> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, Smith, McCoy wrote: >> Yes >> USG files patents all the time >> >>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Brian Behlendorf <br...@behlendorf.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Totally agree. But can the USG file patents? I suppose research >>> organizations can (MITRE, maybe even NASA?) so it's not that academic; but >>> presumably any place where this public domain arises, it applies to patents >>> too. Would be nice to get that sorted. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Chris DiBona wrote: >>>> In military contracting , patent grants are key to the point where I >>>> wouldn't consider a non patent granting license from, say, lockheed as >>>> being open source at all. >>>> On Aug 18, 2016 3:05 PM, "Tzeng, Nigel H." <nigel.tz...@jhuapl.edu> wrote: >>>> On 8/18/16, 3:57 PM, "License-discuss on behalf of Lawrence Rosen" >>>> <license-discuss-boun...@opensource.org on behalf of >>>> lro...@rosenlaw.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >Nigel Tzeng wrote: >>>> >> The issue here is for code that is potentially quite substantial. I >>>> >>would think that would be a different scenario. >>>> > >>>> >If I include the works of Shakespeare in my software, it would of >>>> course >>>> >be substantial and yet still be public domain almost everywhere (?). >>>> >>>> If patents aren't a concern then okay. Copyright lasts longer than >>>> patents so for anything that is in the public domain because of age >>>> then >>>> no patents would still apply. >>>> >>>> There isn¹t a lot of code that has aged out. Only code written between >>>> before 1963 and didn¹t get a renewal. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> License-discuss mailing list >>>> License-discuss@opensource.org >>>> https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> License-discuss mailing list >>> License-discuss@opensource.org >>> https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> License-discuss mailing list >> License-discuss@opensource.org >> https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss > _______________________________________________ > License-discuss mailing list > License-discuss@opensource.org > https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss _______________________________________________ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@opensource.org https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss
