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>There are other important reasons besides "aging out" why the claims of 
>copyright on parts of functional works like software are often denied. (See 17 
>U.S.C. 102(b), for example.) Aging out isn't the only obstacle to copyright 
>claims >that make the copyright aspects of FOSS licenses unenforceable while 
>they remain contracts to disclaim warranties. So when several here suggested 
>that ALL FOSS WORKS probably contain public domain content, this is ANOTHER 
>>example not involving aging.



>The USG and ARL are not unique. Public domain is what it is for software works 
>for everyone here (and probably abroad too). A unique FOSS license isn't 
>necessary to "protect copyrights" in public domain works. Almost any FOSS 
>>contract will work to protect the licensor.



The point is that the code fond in other FOSS WORKS that are in the public 
domain is generally not significant enough to contain an implantation of a 
software patent.  This is why your shakespeare example isn't valid and why the 
USG and ARL could be unique.  Software in the public domain have neither an 
implicit or explicit patent grant.  Which should be a concern of ARL.

OSS licenses that do not explicitly handle the public domain case does not 
apparently meet the needs of the ARL (and probably the rest of the USG) because 
there may be a issue when no copyright exists.

That said, it occurs to me that ARL would not want to use an Apache style 
patent grant but a ECL v2 style grant.  Otherwise someone at the DOE could 
release source code that implements a patent owned by ARL that they are 
licensing to industry for royalties.  Or vice versa.

Under 15 US Code ยง 3710c a.1.A.i

The head of the agency or laboratory, or such individual's designee, shall pay 
each year the first $2,000, and thereafter at least 15 percent, of the 
royalties or other payments, other than payments of patent costs as delineated 
by a license or assignment agreement, to the inventor or coinventors, if the 
inventor's or coinventor's rights are assigned to the United States.

According to this site:  
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-9004.html

 It is estimated that the government has title to over 30,000 patents and 
annually files several thousand new applications.

Ugh. I'm perfectly happy to give away my own code and patents when I choose to 
do so but I would be very unhappy if I accidentally gave away someone else's 
work and cost them thousands of dollars of lost royalties.

My assumption is that the USG is treated as a single legal entity for patent 
and copyright purposes which may be incorrect.  Even if not, one would assume 
that ARL would be treated as part of the Army and could impact any other Army 
lab, FFRDC, UARC or university and other organizations conducting research for 
the Army.
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