On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Tim van Erven wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 20, 2002, Jelmer Fugelpits wrote:
>
> > Ok, also downloaded the  licq-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm file. I tried to use this
> > command: "rpm Uvh licq-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm" but nothing happens. Also tried
> > the GnoRPM tool, but than i got an error that i need 2 more/other
> > packages installed.... *sigh* ....why oh why is Microsoft so big.....:)

Then you should install those two other packages -- this is kind of the whole
point of the packaging tools. The other packages it requires will probably
be something like the Qt widget library (mostly used by KDE, and apps that
start with 'k' for no apparent reason - kword, koffice, etc) and possibly
SSL or something. The way it's done like is that many apps use these
libraries - but you only want the library installed once, not once for every
application. This saves disc space, and eases upgrades.

Therefore, when you're using the package management tools, they verify that
you actually have the required extra libraries (which are also provided as
packages) before they'll let you install the new package. Otherwise, you
wouldn't be able to use it anyway. :-)

> I don't use rpm, but I think you may have to type:
> 
> rpm -Uhv licq-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm (note that '-' in there)

It's been a long time since I've had to use RedHat; but as I recall, -U
performs an upgrade of an already-installed package. If you're installing it
for the first time, the command is -i, so:

 rpm -ivh licq-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm   (as root)

Btw, the -v turns on verbose mode (so it tells you what it's doing), and
the -h enables hash mark printing (so you get a nice progress bar)

This will likely tell you which other packages you need to install first.
You should find and install them (and any packages THEY need) and then try
again. You can also install multiple packages at a time, just by adding them
to the command line. [Aside: If you haven't discovered that pressing <tab>
will autocomplete command and filenames for you in the shell, now's the time
to learn it ;-)]

Of course, RedHat comes with licq - so you should be able to install it from
their distribution cd's, or with Ximian's Red Carpet updater. Red Carpet
should also take care of the dependencies for you. Again it's been a long
time since I used RH, but I do remember Red Carpet being next to useless,
and RedHat's package management to be a "bit" tedious. But at least you get
to learn how the packages on your system interact with each other...

You can also use "rpm -qp licq" to query to see if the package named "licq"
is already installed on your system. (I think...)

> > Why don't you just create kind of an exe file or something. You know,
> > when you double-click, it automaticly starts the installation. Why does
> > it have to be so difficult. Ever heard of Windows....?

It's not really difficult. It's just different. (Okay, it's RedHat, so it's
harder than it should be, but it's still not *that* hard...)

Once you get to know linux better, you'll realise that Windows isn't as
user-friendly as everyone seems to think it is. Of course, what works well
for you depends mostly on the way -you- work.

Hope this provides some extra insight or something :-)
-- 
Mike.


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