I must say, I have not met a build system (besides automake) that  
exceeded make in complexity.  The amount of funny exceptions to rules  
is astounding.  I had far less trouble learning maven (in all its  
complexity)

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On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Alexy Khrabrov <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> Since the topic seems to have morphed into learning Scala and Lift by
> immersion in a day, as a recent Scala convert, I can't begin to
> emphasize how important it is to have the build infrastructure all
> done in a simple way to let novices focus on Scala.  Lift is a good
> example where you have no choice and just follow magic Maven
> incantations.  Another is Processing in Scala, where you can just do
> small sketches.  If the assumption is that it is the Java crowd which
> comes to JVM mostly, it doesn't bootstrap non-JVM folks like those
> coming from Ruby and Haskell/OCaml.  So I'm glad David covers the
> build systems in his book; there should really be an easier way to
> begin without making choices between Maven, SBT, Buildr, Ant, etc.!
> Nothing more complex than a good old command line and a Makefile in
> the same directory...  Ideally SBT becomes a part of Scala and you'll
> have a --make option, or something like that.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexy

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