hi Naftoli,

thanks for your interest.

On Oct 5, 10:50 pm, Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Being a non-programmer, and additionally not having a Java background,
> which framework are you comparing Lift to when you say it's not easy?
> :)

First I read a book about rails, explaining things from the start, I
did watch quite a lot of nice video's on the web explaining some basic
tricks with Rails. I think it is a system that is easy to start with
but I became nervous about recurring issues about scaling, the
integration of Rails and Merb and had the idea, maybe wrong, that it
was a system too much in transition.

I read part of the tutorial of Lift, installed it on my computer using
Maven, but in a way I got lost.

Then I partially read a book about Wicket. I like the system very
much, especially one trick exited me: the Ajaxfallbacklink in which a
link worked in a simple way when javasript is disabled , but at the
same time has some Ajax functionality when Javascript is enabled on
the users system. I liked this feature very much, but the integration
with a database is not an integral part of the Wicket-system and can
be acquired via a Wicket-Spring-Hibernate combination. This seemed too
much for me to get into as a starter.

That's how I came back to Lift. I need a stable database-connection.
You need one when you hope that people will be paying some, even
small, amount of money for your service.

> Can you clarify: Is this going to be a site, or a back end to a mobile
> app that sits on the phone?

I just want to make a site

But I hope it is clear I am not here to criticise anybody, it is just
that often I feel this system is way over my head. Maybe that will
change.

thanks

Ko


>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM, koveen <liep...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Being a no-programmer and having no Java-background
> > I'd like to have mentioned that Lift really isn't an easy framework.
> > Having said that, I will try to read my way into this system and try
> > to solve the problems I encounter.
>
> > I have one question.
>
> > I would like to establish a login method where a visitor of my site
> > (to be) could be accepted as a valid user, based on the info the
> > server receives when the visitor enters the site.
>
> > In my case it will be a site for mobile phones and some mobile phone
> > operators will provide me with the telephone-number of the user once
> > she enters. Once a user has paid for the service,  this number alone
> > should be enough to make the visitior into a valid user. Without
> > needing to log in.
>
> > I have read the following on:http://demo.liftweb.net/ws
>
> > t's easy to "dispatch" incoming HTTP requests.
> > In your "Boot" class create a PartialFunction
> > that matches a pattern related to the incoming request and
> > then create a short-lived controller to service the request.
>
> > This code matches all the requests to "/webservices/????" and
> > assigns the stuff in '????' to the variable c.  Then
> > the code attempts to find a public method with that name on
> > the controller.  If the method exists, it's invoked and Lift
> > processes the result.
>
> > I assume I will have to write my own  public method and place it
> > where??? in the direcory webservices.?
>
> > Maven didn't  include such a directory in my project set-up, so I
> > assume this  "webservices" are on an external server and that I will
> > have torefer to and  extend an existing function. Am I correct in
> > this? and is there an exemple of how to write such a method.
>
> > I would be really happy to make some progress, and any help is
> > welcome.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Ko
>
>

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