- **labels**:  --> Fixed_2_19_44
- **status**: Started --> Fixed
- **Patch**: push -->  
- **Type**: Enhancement --> Defect



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** [issues:#3945] warning about starting volume in MIDI and possible 
workarounds**

**Status:** Fixed
**Labels:** Fixed_2_19_44 
**Created:** Sat Jun 07, 2014 02:38 AM UTC by Anonymous
**Last Updated:** Sun Jun 12, 2016 09:09 AM UTC
**Owner:** Dan Eble


*Originally created by:* *anonymous

*Originally created by:* 
[[email protected]](http://code.google.com/u/100133126505215384215/)

Reported by Harm:
[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2014-05/msg00034.html](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2014-05/msg00034.html)

Refering to a discussion on the user list, especially:
[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-05/msg00425.html](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-05/msg00425.html)
I'd like to report some bugs/enhancements.


First:
the following gives a warning with midi:

  \score \{
      \{ c'1\> c' c'\\\! \}
      \midi \{ \}
  \}

\--> \(De\)crescendo with unspecified starting volume in MIDI.

Though

  \score \{
      \{ c'1 c'\> c' c'\\\! \}
      \midi \{ \}
  \}

does not warn. From a \_musical\_ point of view I can see no difference
in the starting volume.



Second:
In order to avoid the midi-warning a workaround would be to specify
the starting volume explicitly and hide or omit the
DynamicText.stencil.

   \{ c'1-\hide\mf\> c' c'\\\! \}
   \{ c'1-\omit\mf\> c' c'\\\! \}

Though, the Hairpin will start at the right of the now
invisible/non-existent DynamicText [#4837].
I'd think "... the code for typesetting the hairpin should
explicitly check for an \_omitted\_ stencil \(one being \#f\) and in that
case revert to the anchorless behavior", as David K pointed out.




Third:
According to \omit a shortcut for setting the stencil to point-stencil
may be quite handy.


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