- Description has changed:

Diff:

~~~~

--- old
+++ new
@@ -13,19 +13,23 @@
 First:
 the following gives a warning with midi:
 
-  \score \{
-      \{ c'1\> c' c'\\\! \}
-      \midi \{ \}
-  \}
+~~~~
+\score {
+  { c'1\> c' c'\! }
+  \midi {}
+}
 
-\--> \(De\)crescendo with unspecified starting volume in MIDI.
+--> (De)crescendo with unspecified starting volume in MIDI.
+~~~~
 
 Though
 
-  \score \{
-      \{ c'1 c'\> c' c'\\\! \}
-      \midi \{ \}
-  \}
+~~~~
+\score {
+  { c'1 c'\> c' c'\! }
+  \midi {}
+}
+~~~~
 
 does not warn. From a \_musical\_ point of view I can see no difference
 in the starting volume.
@@ -37,8 +41,10 @@
 the starting volume explicitly and hide or omit the
 DynamicText.stencil.
 
-   \{ c'1-\hide\mf\> c' c'\\\! \}
-   \{ c'1-\omit\mf\> c' c'\\\! \}
+~~~~
+{ c'1-\hide\mf\> c' c'\! }
+{ c'1-\omit\mf\> c' c'\! }
+~~~~
 
 Though, the Hairpin will start at the right of the now
 invisible/non-existent DynamicText [#4837].

~~~~

- **status**: Fixed --> Verified
- **Comment**:

0743ea2984c2b705a5e0748721f9ac2e30c575f5



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** [issues:#3945] warning about starting volume in MIDI and possible 
workarounds**

**Status:** Verified
**Labels:** Fixed_2_19_44 
**Created:** Sat Jun 07, 2014 02:38 AM UTC by Anonymous
**Last Updated:** Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:24 AM UTC
**Owner:** Dan Eble


*Originally created by:* *anonymous

*Originally created by:* 
[[email protected]](http://code.google.com/u/100133126505215384215/)

Reported by Harm:
[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2014-05/msg00034.html](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2014-05/msg00034.html)

Refering to a discussion on the user list, especially:
[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-05/msg00425.html](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-05/msg00425.html)
I'd like to report some bugs/enhancements.


First:
the following gives a warning with midi:

~~~~
\score {
  { c'1\> c' c'\! }
  \midi {}
}

--> (De)crescendo with unspecified starting volume in MIDI.
~~~~

Though

~~~~
\score {
  { c'1 c'\> c' c'\! }
  \midi {}
}
~~~~

does not warn. From a \_musical\_ point of view I can see no difference
in the starting volume.



Second:
In order to avoid the midi-warning a workaround would be to specify
the starting volume explicitly and hide or omit the
DynamicText.stencil.

~~~~
{ c'1-\hide\mf\> c' c'\! }
{ c'1-\omit\mf\> c' c'\! }
~~~~

Though, the Hairpin will start at the right of the now
invisible/non-existent DynamicText [#4837].
I'd think "... the code for typesetting the hairpin should
explicitly check for an \_omitted\_ stencil \(one being \#f\) and in that
case revert to the anchorless behavior", as David K pointed out.




Third:
According to \omit a shortcut for setting the stencil to point-stencil
may be quite handy.


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