2011/9/25 Colin Campbell <[email protected]>: > FWIW, Janek's bit above is just what I've been saying, and I believe it is > also what James has been suggesting. The meta-problem seemas to be that > there are developers who see the world as patches submitte4d and discussed > by email, and there are Frogs, newer developers, Bug Squad volunteers and a > patch meister who just want to have the whole picture in one place. Sure, > patches *can* be managed in either, both, or neither of the two > special-purpose tools we use, and sure, *someone* favours each permutation, > but speaking as a relatively new, relatively unskilled contributor, I can't > see why locating and implementing a code management system which handles the > process as well as centralising the discussion, is a Bad Thing.
I don't suppose that he meant it's a bad thing. I think Graham's concern is that we've not moved forward. In order to choose a better tool, someone must investigate the alternatives and describe pros and cons of each of them - then we can actually do something. cheers, Janek Part of the > reason Graham found those "lost" patches is that we're not using the right > tool for the job: an issue tracker which has no knowledge of any resulting > patches is severely limited. A code review tool which requires knowing a > specific issue number or developer's 'nym in order to find a patch, is > useful only on a single host, where no other projects have access. > > > There are dead horses being beaten here, and perhaps this is one, but I > firmly believe that lilypond is in the big leagues, with a big league > community of developers and supporters, and it is time to move to a > specialised code management tool, and leave behind the collection of ad hoc > generic tools held together with unenforceable manual procedures that > serverd a small community several years ago. > > I speak bluntly, I realise, and I apologise for any offence given, but my > opinion is firm and based not just on what I've seen in the lilypond > community, but on general organisational principles, observed over a 35-year > career. > > Cheers, > Colin > > -- > I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on > both hands. > You need to be able to throw something back. > -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel > _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
