> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> > To: Flaming Hakama by Elaine <ela...@flaminghakama.com> > Cc: lilypond-devel <lilypond-devel@gnu.org> > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 22:16:37 +0100 > Subject: Re: 64-bit version of Lilypond? > Flaming Hakama by Elaine <ela...@flaminghakama.com> writes: > > > So, I think the long-term value of Lilypad to the potential user base > > (on mac or even other platforms) is close to zero. In the short term, > > the main downside would be specifically regarding recruiting new users > > by providing an immediate "working" install. > > I've seen reviews of LilyPond lambasting it because clicking the > application does nothing. > > LilyPad helps against that but I am not sure whether we'll entertain > people's attention span long enough to actually become a user of > LilyPond when this was a roadblock.
My hot take: if this is a roadblock, you're probably not going to warm up to Lilypond. > If I remember correctly, > Frescobaldi can download and install official LilyPond versions. If > that's also the case in MacOSX, that would be a strong reason to try > providing a no-GUI LilyPond installation for Darwin. > > -- > David Kastrup > I agree that a no-GUI installation for Darwin would be great, and I suspect it would be enough for the vast majority mac users of Lilypond. However, to be clear, if you are basing this suggestion on being able to install it via Fescobaldi, I'll reiterate the point that it takes way more time and hassle to set that up on a mac, since you have to register with Apple, then download and install XCode, then install a package manager and install Frescobaldi. Then use that to install Lilypond. This is much more work than setting up the command line environment and using the native simpletext editor, using your regular editor/IDE. However, I would guess that shepherding new users to use Fescobaldi would end up getting more of them to stick since I gather it is helpful or even essential for many (if not most) Lilypond users. But this is not a path of convenience on mac. So, I agree with the suggestion, if not the original motivation. Thanks, Elaine Alt 415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is highly underrated*" ela...@flaminghakama.com Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel