---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kieren MacMillan <kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> > To: Karlin High <karlinh...@gmail.com> > Cc: David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>, lilypond-devel <lilypond-devel@gnu.org>, > "Hans Åberg" <haber...@telia.com> > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 09:50:19 -0500 > Subject: Re: 64-bit version of Lilypond? > Hi Karlin, > > > Would MacPorts installation be adequate for LilyPond? Hans Åberg reports > success with this. Or is it important to have something available from > lilypond.org? > > Let’s use [totally opinion-based] numbers for argument’s sake: > > people who would download and keep using a version from lilypond.org that > didn’t require a second [editor] download: 100 > > people who would download and keep using a version from lilypond.org that > required a second [editor] download: 75 > > people who would download and keep using a version using MacPorts: 30 > > That is to say, I would guess we turn off at least half of our potential > [Mac-based] user base by not having something available from lilypond.org. > Of course, I would still use it (I have MacPorts installed for maxima and a > number of other things), but I’m not the average Mac user. > > Thoughts? > > Kieren. > ________________________________ > > Kieren MacMillan, composer > ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info > ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info >
Context of my opinion: I use Lilypond on a mac. I do not use Frescobaldi. I use Sublime Text as my editor, but when I stared I used emacs. I have never used Lilypad except as part of the initial "hello, Lily" process to validate whether the install worked. I would image that anyone doing real work in Lilypond, who does not use Frescobaldi (or some other front end like Denomo?) would use their typical go-to text editor/IDE, and not Lilypad. In fact, I wonder if anyone on this list still uses Lilypad for any reason other than to validate installs? (Unless I am mistaken and that Lilypad is commonly used in conjunction with Frescobaldi.) So, I think the long-term value of Lilypad to the potential user base (on mac or even other platforms) is close to zero. In the short term, the main downside would be specifically regarding recruiting new users by providing an immediate "working" install. Since this short-term goal is arguably still very important, I would be willing to work on instructions or development of a command-line howto or script to replace the Lilypad-based "hello, Lily". Also, regarding your thought experiment, since macs ship with an editor called simpletext, so there would be 0 cases where someone would need to download additional software to start using Lilypond if it required another editor. I do agree that requiring using macports would significantly curtail that potential user base. In fact, one of the reasons I have not tried Frescobaldi is that you need to use a package manager to install it, and download the developer tools (XCode). While this may be ok for my development machines, on my macbook air it isn't really as viable an option (due to disc space, as I also need to run Logic and Cubase, etc.) Thanks, Elaine Alt 415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is highly underrated*" ela...@flaminghakama.com Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
