On 2/5/20, 7:40 AM, "lilypond-devel on behalf of David Kastrup"
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]>
wrote:
Mike Solomon <[email protected]> writes:
> Janek Warchoł <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> śr., 5 lut 2020, 00:34 użytkownik <[email protected]> napisał:
>>
>>> What problem are we trying to solve here?
>>>
>>
>> In short, it's been found (I think Mike will be able to give you
>> specific
>> examples) that having code of conduct encourages contributions from
>> newcomers.
>
>> I rather think that a friendly atmosphere encourages contributions
>> from newcomers. Whether an upfront requirement to commit to a set
>> of rules with an enforcement team is perceived as a guarantee of a
>> friendly atmosphere is debatable.
>
> I personally would feel more comfortable if there were a code of
> conduct, and I know within my company one employee will not attend a
> conference or participate in a project unless there is a code of
> conduct. I don't have any hard stats to prove this, but have a gut
> feeling that a code of conduct opens more doors than it closes.
My gut feeling is the opposite. Upon reading the Code of Conduct, it felt to
me like it was proposing a private channel for a mean-spirited
passive-aggressive person to wreak havoc on the community.
Now, I do not feel like we have any such individuals in our community. So in
the best of all possible worlds, there is no harm to a code of conduct. But in
the best of all possible worlds, there is also no need for a code of conduct.
In the worst of all worlds, the lack of a Code of Conduct can lead to
individual bullying. In the worst of all worlds, a Code of Conduct can lead to
systematic bullying, where an anonymous complainer gets the weight of a
bureaucracy behind the bullying.
I don't believe we have the worst of all worlds. I don't believe that any
individual behind the proposal for the Code of Conduct has anything but the
best intentions. I want to see the LilyPond community be a friendly, welcoming
place for all. I believe that it largely is a friendly, welcoming place for
all.
For me, personally, I find the Code of Conduct approach with its implied threat
(if you don't obey, we'll punish you -- in fact, we've spelled out the
punishments in the document) to be much less friendly than a public statement
that we value an open, respectful, and friendly environment and we call on all
to participate in it. The Code of Conduct approach feels like taking a
sledgehammer to squash a fly.
I recognize that Mike Solomon has a different opinion. I mean no disrespect to
Mike, Janek, Han-Wen, or any other member of the LilyPond team. I highly value
the team spirit of the LilyPond team.
I would be less likely to participate if we make the proposed Code of Conduct
part of our LilyPond environment.
Thanks for listening,
Carl
