Thanks for the additional information. I guess like with Python there are
many ways to skin a cat.
I've already used this learning to add other stuff to tab ie. up/down
pick, arpeggios, trills. The reason I'm doing this is that I need to give
tab only to some folks, not for songs but more for practice. For songs the
full tab is enough or both staffs. Most tabs will only have a few
objects but I'm using this to learn about ly too.
I'm loving the flexibility that ly gives. I previously had to use multiple
bits of software to do what ly can do :-) You and the community
with frescobaldi have helped me ditch windows for linux - I'm running ly
on a 6 year old laptop with fedora.
Best
Lee
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 at 16:09, Knute Snortum <ksnor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I can see that setting an extra-offset once is easier than changing
> the Y-offset many times. Good call.
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 8:04 AM Yoshiaki Onishi <i...@yoshionishi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I debated whether or not to suggest X- and Y-offsets instead of
>> extra-offset for the reason the latter needs to be used with caution, but I
>> ultimately suggested the extra-offset option because with Y-offset, the
>> distance between number and the StemTremolo sign could suddenly differ
>> depending on the pitches. Like when the Y-offset is set initially to a
>> value, you don’t know when that distance starts to vary. But then I guess
>> the same logic goes with the initial distance-setting with extra-offset, as
>> well.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 16:41 Knute Snortum <ksnor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> extra-offset is certainly useful but it should be used with care because
>>> its effect happens after LilyPond has done all its rendering. Use Y-offset
>>> and X-offset when you can. So in your case possibly:
>>>
>>> myNotes = \relative c' {
>>> \override TabStaff.StemTremolo.stencil = #ly:stem-tremolo::print
>>> \override TabStaff.StemTremolo.Y-offset = -1.5
>>> \repeat tremolo 4 g16
>>> \repeat tremolo 4 a16
>>> \override TabStaff.StemTremolo.Y-offset = 0
>>> \repeat tremolo 4 b16
>>> }
>>>
>>> --
>>> Knute Snortum
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 12:47 AM Lee <leej...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the link - stencil makes sense - I got it working with -0.7
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Whatever developer put in the .extra-offset is very wise.
>>>>
>>>> Have a good weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 at 20:00, Yoshiaki Onishi <i...@yoshionishi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > I'm transcribing some guitar music with tremolo picking which means
>>>>> the single note is up/down picked very rapidly.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I've managed to get the double slashes on the staff with code below
>>>>> - thanks to the super documentation.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is it possible to get the double slash on the tab sheet just below
>>>>> the note whilst keeping it on the staff?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > \version "2.25.7"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > myNotes = \relative c' {
>>>>> > \repeat tremolo 4 g16
>>>>> > \repeat tremolo 4 a16
>>>>> > \repeat tremolo 4 b16
>>>>> >
>>>>> > }
>>>>> >
>>>>> > \score {
>>>>> > <<
>>>>> > \new Staff {
>>>>> > \clef "treble_8"
>>>>> > \myNotes
>>>>> > }
>>>>> > \new TabStaff
>>>>> > \myNotes
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > }
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Appreciate help. Everything I've needed to do with notation has
>>>>> been possible so far.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Lee,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tldr: Inserting the following line between "myNotes = \relative c’ {“
>>>>> and “\repeat tremolo 4 g16”
>>>>>
>>>>> \override TabStaff.StemTremolo.stencil = #ly:stem-tremolo::print
>>>>>
>>>>> Will force LilyPond to have the tremolo sign show up on the TabStaff.
>>>>> However, you may notice that the tremolo signs are often colliding with
>>>>> the
>>>>> numbers. So I might suggest a global “bringing-down” of these tremolo
>>>>> signs, by adding the following line:
>>>>>
>>>>> \override TabStaff.StemTremolo.extra-offset = #'(0 . -1)
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of -1, you might like -0.5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A bit more details: according to the documentation, TabStaff has some
>>>>> “stencils” turned off, and StemTremolo is one of them:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/internals/tabstaff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>> Yoshi
>>>>
>>>>
