Thanks. I stand corrected. But once when presented with a piece I had to 
sight-read in a hurry I played the whole first line in the wrong clef.....
Not a happy experience.

Best regards,


Friday, February 2, 2018, 6:11:41 PM, you wrote:

> At 11:50 02/02/2018 +0000, Peter Toye wrote:
>>Trying to engrave a piece of piano music where the left hand starts 
>>in the treble clef. The music I'm copying from has a bass clef at 
>>the start of the piece, followed by a clef change immediately before 
>>the first note, which I think was standard practice in the 19th 
>>century (but I'm willing to be told otherwise in the 21st).

> For what it's worth, Elaine Gould says, in _Behind Bars_, "The 
> practice of retaining the most commonly used clef at the beginning of 
> the stave while inserting a new clef after it is obsolete. This 
> includes the very start of a piece." (p. 7) and "Music for keyboard 
> is written on two or more staves joined by a curly brace. [...] 
> Although the upper stave usually takes the treble clef and the lower 
> stave the bass clef, each stave can appear in either clef as 
> required." (p. 303). Her examples include braced parts which start 
> with both staves in the treble clef.

> Brian Barker 
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