Sorry Andrew, I accidentally answered to your personal e-mail.
Thank you Andrew for your answer and your use examples. Maybe I wasn't > clear enough. Using \override should be necessary for fine-tuning what you > do, and in any moment have I proposed to eliminate that capability. The > proposed syntax surely would make some things easier by default. Using > overrides should keep working basically the same way as now. However, > "fine-tuning" seems to be very broad with text spanners. Putting some text > and making a line requires already fine-tuning, which doesn't seem so > "fine" to me, and shows only a lack of appropriate syntax for getting a > default result. So what I'm proposing is *additional* to what we already > have: the ability to make *basic* text spanners with a basic syntax, > allowing the user to customize that behavior with \overrides, the way it's > done now. > > So I would say, Andrew, with my proposal, if you need custom \overrides, > nothing should change for you, if this is implemented ;-). > > Regards, > Martín. > > El El mié, 22 jul 2020 a las 5:58, Andrew Bernard < > [email protected]> escribió: > >> Well, text spanners are pressed into service for dozens of things. >> Here's a random example from my scores: >> >> % text spanner for repeat >> \once \override TextSpanner.style = #'line >> \once \override TextSpanner.thickness = #2 >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left.text = >> \markup { >> \path #0.25 #leftBracketPath >> \general-align #Y #CENTER \sans \upright " repeat + " >> } >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.text = >> \markup { >> \path #0.25 #rightBracketPath >> } >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left-broken.text = ##f >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right-broken.text = ##f >> \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right-broken.padding = ##f >> \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.padding = #8 >> \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left.padding = #-4 >> >> I have no trouble with that personally, and I require all the fine detail. >> >> I can see your objections, but removing this capability from lilypond >> would never get up as a suggestion. Furthermore, there is nothing >> stopping your creating your own music functions and so do to achieve >> what you have described, >> >> Here's an example of that, for doing things like SP-----> NAT for violin. >> >> % use with startTextSpan and stopTextSpan >> >> stringTechnique = >> #(define-music-function >> (left right) >> (markup? markup?) >> "string technique markup" >> #{ >> \once \override TextSpanner.font-name = "Libertinus Sans Bold" >> \once \override TextSpanner.font-size = #-4 >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-padding = #1.0 >> \once \override TextSpanner.style = #'line >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.arrow = ##t >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left.text = #left >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.text = #right >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.padding = #0.6 >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right.stencil-align-dir-y = >> #CENTER >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left.stencil-align-dir-y = >> #CENTER >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.left-broken.text = ##f >> \once \override TextSpanner.bound-details.right-broken.text = ##f >> #}) >> >> Given the enormous flexibility in defining lilypond functions and the >> use of Scheme for extensions and customisations, I don't think rushing >> to change syntax is a good idea, apart from the fact that you would >> have huge problems with backwards compatibility. >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 07:28, Martín Rincón Botero >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Hey all, >> > >> > this is a feature request. I'm sorry, if this is already being >> discussed or if a solution is coming behind the scenes. I couldn't find any >> message other than a mention to >> https://code.google.com/archive/p/lilypond/issues/3176. I find the lack >> of a proper text spanner syntax uncomfortable. >> >> -- > www.martinrinconbotero.com > -- www.martinrinconbotero.com
