Hello,

This is a follow-up concerning Frescobaldi start-up problems on Mac Ventura 
13.5 (I should clarify that this is an issue that only occurs when I first 
start Frescobaldi after having powered-on the computer). 

I upgraded to Frescobaldi 3.3.0 via MacPorts. That worked very well, but the 
anomalous behavior is the same. 

If I double-click a .ly file icon in the Mac Finder, I get the start-up 
animation and Frescobaldi splash screen. No menus appear and the file is not 
opened. 

Mac system show Frescobaldi not responding. 

If I go back and double-click the .ly file icon,(while Frescobaldi is running, 
but not responding) the file opens in the usual Frescobaldi window-set, along 
with the menus at the top of the screen. However, everything is inoperative, 
and still shows Not Responding in Mac system activity monitor. 

There is no response when clicking menus, and I can not select and edit the 
code. I must force quit. 

I tried waiting up to ten minutes, so see if it was just busy or slow.

At this point, I can start Frescobaldi from the app icon and then double-click 
a .ly file-icon, and everything runs properly. I can quit and start again 
without problems, until I power-off the computer. 

Thanks to everyone for recommending the upgrade. I am very glad to have the new 
version of Frescobaldi. The start-up issue is only a nuisance but I enjoy this 
program so much, I worry a bit when there are odd problems like this. 

Would the system report/program-dump be of any use? I can send a zip file.

Thanks again!

     On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 04:34:49 PM EDT, Jean Abou Samra 
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Thank you for describing the problem precisely.

Le mardi 12 septembre 2023 à 20:21 +0000, Zone Dremik a écrit :
 Hello,

I usually start work by double-clicking on a Lilypond-file Icon (.ly ) in a 
finder window. The Apple OS shows the opening-file animation, and starts 
Frescobaldi. 

Frescobali goes through start up with Splash-Screen, and the full Frescobaldi 
menu appears, but no windows. The selected file does not actually open. 

At that point, I can go back to the finder and double-click again. The selected 
file then opens, and I can work. (Once Frescobaldi is running properly, I can 
also open files from the Recent-Files menu). I never use the Open-File menu 
choice in Frescobaldi. 

After a recent Apple System upgrade, Frescobaldi now stalls completely during 
start-up. (Flash-screen, but no menus, no windows). The Apple system monitor 
shows that it is unresponsive and I must force-quit. 

After I force-quit, I can start Frescobadli again (either double-click a file 
or click the App Icon) and it runs as normal.

I Re-Installed Frescobaldi. I followed the MacPorts Install link on the 
Frescobaldi website download page. I would normally have used the prebuilt Mac 
OS installer option, but there is a message saying that some features were not 
available via that route. 

The MacPorts install ran without any error messages, but I am not sure if I was 
doing a fresh install or an upgrade to a newer version. In any case there has 
been no change with running Frescobaldi.


Well, according to the information at the bottom, the version you are running 
Frescobaldi 3.1.3, but according 
tohttps://ports.macports.org/port/frescobaldi/the version currently packaged in 
MacPorts is Frescobaldi 3.3.0.That means that the version you are running is 
actually not the one MacPorts installed but an older version that is still 
around. It also says: “installation kind: standalone .app bundle” which 
confirms this.
I'd first remove that Frescobaldi app (probably "move to trash" in the 
Applications directory? my days of using macOS are long ago) then maybe try to 
reinstall the MacPorts app. I don't know whether MacPorts is actually going to 
install it to /Applications (CCing Davide who should know more).


I came rather late to Frescobaldi. I had been using Lilypond (starting about 
ten years ago) on it's own. At that time, I could start Lilypond from the Mac 
Finder, and it would open with a simple text editor and some menu choices. 
Output was sent to a PDF viewer. 

Is it the case that Lilypond no longer works as a stand-alone app?


Yes, indeed. That app was totally inferior in every way to Frescobaldi or even 
other editors, and was causing trouble for us developers (especially with the 
switch to 64-bit architectures).


I am quite satisfied to use Fresobaldi. I had tried to open Lilypond in order 
to double-check what version it was. 

All the files I work with have \version statements "2.20.0" but Update.ly 
stopped working quite some time ago.


Do you mean convert-ly?


(Should I make further inquiry about this?)


Yes.


Would you recommend downloading the latest Lilypond? 


Changing LilyPond won't help. You have a Frescobaldi problem, not a LilyPond 
problem.
Regards,Jean



Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Zon

Frescobaldi: 3.1.3
Extension API: 0.9.0
Python: 3.9.1
python-ly: 0.9.7
Qt: 5.11.3
PyQt: 5.15.2
sip: 4.19.24
poppler: 20.12.1
python-poppler-qt: 0.75.0
OS: macOS-10.16-x86_64-i386-64bit
installation kind: standalone .app bundle

  

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