> On 9 Apr 2025, at 10:08, David House <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So, going through the tutorial. I am confused about the ' designating middle 
> C.
> 
> This is the coding in the example of page 15 of the tutorial manual which 
> places c' in within the bass clef staff:
> 
> \relative {
>   \clef bass
>   \time 3/4
>   \tempo "Andante" 4 = 120
>   c,2  e8 c'
>   g'2.
>   f4 e d 
>   c4 c, r
> }
> 
> Yet this coding using the c' designation places middle C where it is supposed 
> to be, above the bass clef staff - 
> 
> \relative {
> \clef bass
> c'1
> }
> 

David,

see also

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/writing-pitches#relative-octave-entry

c’ is middle-C in absolute mode, but is “ <relative computed c> shifted one 
octave up from the relative computed pitch” in relative mode.

In the snippet from the tutorial you enter relative mode, start at 
c-2-octaves-below-middle-c (absolute c,) then go relative to e from that c 
(ending up at absolute e, then go relative back to a c (absolute c,) and shift 
that an octave upward ending up at absolute c (one octave below middle c)

Your second snippet starts of at middle c (the first note in a \relative 
without a start-pitch is interpreted as absolute)

So in relative mode number of comma- or apostrophes indicate the amount of 
octaves to shift upward/downward from the computed relative position of the 
pitch based from the previous note.

In absolute mode the number of comma- or apostrophes indicate the absolute 
octave of the pitch (with a single apostrophe indicating the octave of middle-C)


HTH to clarify the effects you see

kind regards, 
Hans

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