Hi, this question goes far back in history, as several people in this thread have pointed out.
As someone who is well-educated with a Master of Fine Arts in music, trained choir conductor, and with studies in music psychology (among other things), I’m well aware of the historical facts. My background is A, H, C… but in my daily work I mostly use A, B, C…, which is becoming increasingly common in Sweden. The purpose of my question was not to start a discussion about whether this is good or bad, but rather how to solve it programmatically in Lilypond in the best way—without interfering with future updates. I’ve currently solved it by modifying the define-note-names.scm file, which controls the language settings. It works perfectly, but I’ve hacked one of Lilypond’s internal files—which is not a good path. What I want to do is create an override or an extension that changes only the parts I need to modify, while keeping the rest intact. I assume this is possible, but I haven’t understood how. That’s what I want to solve—not to discuss why. Best regards, MO > 21 apr. 2025 kl. 18:17 skrev Wol <antli...@youngman.org.uk>: > On 21/04/2025 15:27, k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> They just superficially skims over the topic, the real problem is that >> poeple mixes the languages, there will always be confusion and >> misunderstanding when people takes words and ideoms from other cultures >> and languages and applies it in a different context. > > But this is the nature of language! It really *!&%^$(>(*! me off when the > Americans go on about "British English"! > > There's no such thing! Britain has many languages, and as I like to put it, > the Saxons speak English, the Anglish speak Scots, and the Scots speak > Gaelic. What the Gaels speak ... :-) > > That's why, when I did the Linux Raid Wiki, the "how to help" just said "use > any recognised dialect". And why I get really upset when people talk about > "correct" English - there's no such thing! "Official English", aka "The > King's English", is one of the youngest dialects on the block! > > What matters is that we have an accepted STANDARD, and if we add "svenglish", > so what ... > > By the way, what do you mean by "lastbil"? If you're thinking of English, > that's a rigid chassis that weighs, what, 5 ton (not tonne, they're not the > same :-). Okay, rigids now go to about 22 tonne, but above that we have an > "artic" (which the Americans call a "semi"). > > Oh - and in English we also have "truck", which (and off the top of my head > I'm getting confused) means a (usually big) car chassis with a cab and an > open back. Not to be confused with a forklift. > > We laugh at the French for trying to dictate what language is. (I think the > Portuguese community may have fallen into the same trap.) Personally I think > the English setup where the language evolves naturally is much better, so > long as we do have a clear standard, and don't have idiots calling four or > five similar languages by just the one - "British English" - name! Or other > idiots (who should know better) taking clearly defined words and confusing > them with other clearly defined words with similar-but-different meanings. > > Svenglish, Spanglish, Scouse, Pidgin, Scots, so long as we can agree on > *which* of them we're speaking, WHO CARES! > > Oh - and why does lilypond insist on calling an english half-note a full note? > > /// > > And as for this confusion about b and h, from what I can gather, the > controversy is twice as old as modern English! (Defining "modern" as > "something today's speaker would not struggle to understand".) > > Cheers, > Wol
