>
> I'm not analyzing whether the slopes or quanting of the beams are
> correct.  That's above my engraving experience.  I've just been analyzing
> the regtest, and when the regtest was implemented, and how its performance
> has changed between versions.
>
> And the only regtest I've been looking at is beam-quanting-32nd.ly,
> because that's the only one that claims to avoid making stems too long....
>
> The regtest doesn't show the stems that are too long.  The current code
> "respects stem lengths".
>
> The alternative typesetting for the half-staff-space slope would be to
> place the 1/32 beam hanging from the g staff line on the right hand side,
> and sitting on the e staff line on the left hand side, and then have the
> 1/16 and 1/8 beams 3/4 of a staff space below the next beam above, so they
> don't need need to touch a staff line.  But then the stems would be 2 staff
> spaces longer in measure 2 of the regtest.
>
>
ahhh ok, I definitely misunderstood that then. sorry! thanks for explaining

> 16th beams touch staff lines in every one of the cases you set from Ross,
> IIUC. I can't see any of the LilyPond 16th beams that don't touch the staff
> lines.  Have I missed something?
>
well you missed one (1) place where the beam ends don't touch staff lines
(the D-C-B-B in the third group of 16th notes), but this one is also my
fault because I got sidetracked by lilypond's beam slopes and short-ass
stems, so I ended up trying to use that test page thing as an example of
lilypond's too-steep beaming and too-short stems, and then forgot to
explain that!! because I'm stupid or smth idk. sorry again :(

> But more damping will lead to longer stems in 16th beams.
>
yeah that's primarily why i use damping = #2 really

> Have you been able to get more damping and have 16th beams fail to touch
> staff lines?  If so, I think that would be a bug, in the sense of behavior
> contrary to design intent.
>
I have! a 2.5 page piece I recently (i.e. this week) typeset that used
damping = #2 had me manually setting beam positions ~12 times to ensure no
beam ends fell on staff spaces

> As you post issues to the issues list, I think you should distinguish
> between problems with triple beams and those with double beams.
>
> And it would be really nice in the issue to have a simple example that
> shows the problem, so a regression test can be created to validate the fix.
>
ah mannnn I JUST finished posting the issue bro /lh ok I'll do that give me
an hour or two :)

>

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