On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Orna Agmon wrote:

> a. We begin with the idea behind it all:
> 
> Nadav, speaking of his essay of free software. would this go well with 
> freshly baked rolls?  :)
> 
> motivation and ideology.

good start.

> b. Then shlomil will show that Linux is an office tool, a normal thing to 
> put on your computer, including Hebrew support. This is where we show that 
> Linux is good _enough_, and build from that point on to show it is better.
> 
> --> screenshots.
> --> a demo of hebrew office
> --> can we have a demo of a digital camera interfacing? preferably, a 
> picture of the crowd.

good continuation.

> c. orrd: the home computer as a server. mailing lists, web, mail server. 
> the point is that the same computer can also be a server. 
> since we assume the audiance to be users and not admins,
>  the point should not be to go to the details of what a server is, but stress 
> the output: the ability to have as many email adresses as you wish (you 
> are not limited to just one mailbox for the family- you can give all your 
> family members personal e-mails.
> the things that can be easily done with a static ip (reference to actcom), 
> having an ftp server at home, an ssh server (what if i forgot to copy my homework 
> before i went to the technion?)
> mailing lists.
> 
> --> show log files?
> --> create a  user, create a home page for it? (for some reason peple are 
> more enthusiastic about automaic html tools, then over plain html)
> --> access the current computer from a remote client by ssh, scp? (shh to 
> there and back, under different user names)?

you might want to put alon before orr - a user at home wants games, just 
as they want a word processor.

> d. muli will jump back to the thread begun by nadav, and take the merits 
> of the openess of the system, to talk about the joy of hacking. the way a 
> user can become a developer by various ways, starting understanding 
> the way the system works (since it is possible to see all sources), 
> via  submitting bug reports and directing attention, to kernel hacking .
> 
> --> a demo of strace? 
> 
> e. alon will show the fun in linux- games. alon, i am not familiar with 
> that, what are you going to show? there are those sweet efficient games 
> that come with the distros, but i think very little of the big quests/3d 
> games are for linux. (i hope i am wrong)
> 
> f. guy will do wonders with gtk, and write a text editor out of the blue, 
> on the spot.

i suggest you put me before muli - we both cover the software development 
part. i cover 'naive programming' (i.e. writing a regular GUI program). 
muli takes it further away, into kernel hacking and breaking the system 
up.

this is actually how many users might go. they begin with moving to linux 
because its free, it's stable, its intriguing (nadav) then they see they 
can actually do some work on it (shlomil). then they can even more their 
gaming there (alon). then it goes networked, and even becomes a server 
(orr). then they want to make it do something new, by programming it (guy) 
and eventually they want to truly modify its heart and hack away crazily 
(muli).

-- 
guy

"For world domination - press 1,
 or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy


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