On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Mounir Bsaibes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Christian Robottom Reis <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:07:04AM -0500, Mounir Bsaibes wrote: >> > > So my question stands: we don't control upstream and can't assign a >> > > blueprint to a monthly milestone as we don't have control over when it >> > > will actually land. How should this be handled? >> > >> > Should we have another milestone called 'Upstream' for example? (This >> > milestone would be a place holder milestone similar to the 'Backlog' >> > milestone) >> >> Conceptually, I think this is a bit bogus. Backlog is an accurate >> indication of the scheduling of an unstarted blueprint or bug (i.e. its >> milestone is unknown), whereas a task which is already being worked on >> has context around it, which would be lost if you just retargeted the >> task to upstream. >> >> And besides, don't you want engineers to want to get better at >> predicting when their work will be accepted? > > yes - absolutely. >> >> I get the argument that >> upstreaming code is hard to predict, but it is definitely not /totally/ >> chaotic and unpredictable -- if the patch concpt is sane then it's a >> number of interations and then hitting a merge window. There's something >> of a rhythm to it. It shouldn't take multiple months for most patches to >> be accepted, and epic patches (see CMA) should be specially planned for. > > > An alternative flow can be as follows: > 1. When a developer comes free, they pick the next best blueprint > 2. They assign it to themselves, remove the 'backlog' milestone, target it > to a milestone based on an educated guess and learned experience, and > mark it as 'Started'
That's fine, but previously we've said that if you target something to a milestone then you *must not* miss that milestone. If we relax that then I'm OK with doing it based on an educated guess. -- Michael _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~linaro-project-management Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~linaro-project-management More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
