[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You also get the showing-off-the-tool syndrome. Yes, you can generate
>> some really flashy images in photoshop with almost no effort.

>That's because the programmer has done so much good work for you.  The
>programmer is often being more creative than the end-user 'artist'.  In my
>opinion the programmer is the artist in this instance.  His ideas live in
>his code, and the graphic artist is reduced the role of channelling the
>programmers creativity.

To compare it to an extreme example: a violinist playing a stratavarius.
Too bad programmers aren't getting that sort of credit yet.

I remember many years ago watching some MTV video music awards, heckling
most of the awards. I was yelling "That one should have gone to JAMES 
CLARK too!!!!!" at the TV.... :-)

>Of course a good graphic designer learns the tool well enough to be able
>to add in their own artistic ideas into the process.  The programmer of a
>graphics tool is a graphic artist and a good graphic artist works at the
>same level as the programmer.  They're working together without otherwise
>knowing each other at all.

We need something like the Bauhaus, which was formed specificly to
break down the "artifical distinction" between artist and craftsman.

>> Have you seen the algorithmic music by Andrew Bulhack?

>I have now :)  I like the ideas very much, they're similar to some of my
>own, only his came a few years earlier..  AFAIK (mpg123 is rejecting his
>mp3's for some reason) he is trying to replicate the feel of existing
>music.  I think that's the easiest route..  It's challenging to try to

Yes, he came at it from an academic AI angle, so replicating human
style algorithmicly was the main point.

>synthesise what already exists but do you really gain much?  I like to
>create sounds that I haven't heard before..  I think generative music can
>explore new music better than old.

Definately. 

-------- David Fischer -------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------- www.cca.org --------
"Beauty is only skin-deep. It's what's underneath that really matters."
                                             - traditional cannibal saying

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