All good, but let’s please discuss contracting a cute little Lincoln trolley or 
shuttle for round-robin transportation specifically for seniors who do not 
drive and who may not choose to drive at night.
Lincoln is a very difficult place for seniors to be housebound. 
Maybe invest $5 million in an investment fund to pay for a senior shuttle or 
trolley for the foreseeable future? ? 


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On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 11:17 AM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> 
wrote:

As for Hanscom Air Force Base-when a Select, I served for 12 years as the 
liaison to HAFB.Post 9/11, everything changes.It is not realistic to expect 
access to the Base and/or its facilities. 

That said, there may be other choices.The Beede Center draws from a much larger 
population base than Lincoln.Perhpas Lincoln could contract with Beede for more 
classes and/or shared benefits.In addition, we have The Commons in 
Lincoln.Perhaps we could find a way to contract for access for their really 
excellent facilities.
And, there are facilities in both Lexington and Waltham.Let’s get more creative 
about where we turn to access facilities and services.
What do we need?What do we want.?And where might we find it?Do we really need 
to replicate what is available  at our borders?
Sara Mattes 71 Conant Rd.






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On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:18 AM, John Mendelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Bringing the conversation back to the original intent, the Beede Center (pool 
and fitness center alone) cost $11 million to build in 2006.  See:  
https://concordma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/472/Section-VI-Swim-and-Fitness-Fund-PDF#:~:text=It%20was%20constructed%20for%20approximately,generous%20contributions%20from%20the%20community.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:08 AM Carol Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:

The pool at The Beede Center is great.

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On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
<[email protected]> wrote:



Have you tried the indoor and outdoor pools at the Waltham YMCA?
Very close by way of Trapelo but I’m not certain of how crowded it gets.



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On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 9:54 AM, Anne Warner <[email protected]> 
wrote:

I would also dearly love access to a good lap pool, both in the summer (Codman 
hours for lap swimming are limited to put it mildly, especially for those of us 
who work) and in the winter.  I've thought about trying to rally a group of 
master swimmers to use Codman in the very early morning (think 6-7:30?) during 
the summer -- enough people committed so that we could pay a lifeguard to be 
there.  It feels a bit overwhelming to try to organize this, knowing as few 
people as I do in Lincoln. Is there anyone out there who would be interested 
not only in participating, but in organizing.  
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:43 AM Adam M Hogue <[email protected]> wrote:

That is correct. 

Adam M HogueCell: (978) 828-6184

On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:40 PM, Joanna Owen Schmergel <[email protected]> wrote:



As a Veteran, it is my understanding that you cannot use the facilities as a 
Veteran unless you are a retired (20 years) Veteran, or a Veteran with special 
status. 


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On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 9:38 AM, Adam M Hogue <[email protected]> 
wrote:

There is no pool in any of the designs.  Hanscom you have to be military or 
former military personnel to use the base facilities.  

Adam M HogueCell: (978) 828-6184

On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
<[email protected]> wrote:



Well, if this does end up going forward at $25 million, I truly hope we can 
get a nice indoor collegiate sized pool for laps.



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On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 9:15 AM, DJCP <[email protected]> wrote:

My kids go to LEAP, the after school program, and we frequently use the Pods 
for community events and rec dept programs and generally hanging around after 
school and the Pods are in tough shape.  Much like the school building was 
before the renovation.  I am sensitive to costs, but significant overhaul of 
the Pods is needed in the imminent future.  Costs are only going to go up if we 
put the project off.  And I like the idea of rolling the senior center into the 
school campus as it would be nice to have the communities intersect more.  (The 
Girl Scouts in particular already do service projects for the COA&HS and it 
would be great to expand that.)  Again, I am sensitive to cost, not just for me 
but the community, but I hope everyone can keep an open mind. 

Diana 
Giles Rd 

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:27 AM Louis Zipes <[email protected]> wrote:

Maybe I missed it and I could be very wrong it but I think part of this project 
also takes into account the Hartwell Pods/Bemis Hall and the cost to sustain 
those/replace them going forward. That might or might not factor into the 
overall cost and design we are seeing. 
There have been community center meetings so I think I personally need to go 
back and watch them to be better educated. 
https://www.lincolntown.org/1019/Community-Center-FAQs




On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
<[email protected]> wrote:

What about the cost for ages 65 to 79?
I do think low cost access to indoor year-round swimming is important for our 
older population.
Many might find $199 a year to be a lot. 
If there is some kind of access to certain facilities at Hanscom for seniors 
that would be very good information to have. Hanscom has fantastic health & 
fitness facilities.




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On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 7:55 AM, Maureen At Beede 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Lots of Lincoln seniors use beede center in concord.  Full access for $199/year 
if over 80.  
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 7:52 AM Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if our Lincoln seniors could ever be granted 
certain access to any of the phenomenal health and fitness facilities at 
Hanscom?



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On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 7:41 AM, Elaine Hawkes <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Thank you Seth and others for bringing up the community center. It’s something 
I have been discussing with other youngish seniors (LSRHS class of 1971)and 
have a number of concerns.  Although I don’t yet use the senior senior, and do 
think one with an elevator is important, I’m not sure how many older adults in 
town use it regularly. In my cohort, there is a greater worry about high 
property taxes and whether we can afford to continue to pay them if a community 
center is built.

“If you build it they will come” 
(https://www.lincolntown.org/documentcenter/view/35385) Is this true, 
particularly with ongoing concerns about covid and availability of classes and 
meetings on Zoom?
There are few offerings for adults through the Rec Department. Is that from 
lack of space or lack of interest? Most people I know go out of town for 
programs.
I’m not happy with the design which appears to have a lot of wasted space in 
its “open concept”. With heating prices going up, how much will it cost to heat 
this big building?
I also think the world has changed since 2017 when this community center was 
first discussed.  I would rather the town spend its money on mixed income 
housing, for example, which it needs. And, Lincoln’s older homebound adults 
could stay in their homes if they had more services paid for by the town. This 
would be a good use of money for seniors.
Lastly, if an expensive community center must be built, can we at the same time 
look at allowing more Lincoln homes to build accessory apartments and backyard 
cottages? This would help seniors pay their higher taxes, and stay in their 
large homes while benefiting non-high income folks looking for Lincoln housing.
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