I think that needs some nuance. The Town of Lincoln ons the land. The disposition of the buildings is another matter. ------ Sara Mattes
> On Nov 16, 2022, at 6:08 PM, Jennifer Saffran <[email protected]> > wrote: > > FYI: The Town of Lincoln no longer owns the DeCordova. The Trustees of the > Reservation are the owners now. > >> On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:57 PM, ROY HARVEY <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Appendix D (Program Schedule Matrix) and Appendix O (A day in the life of >> the Lincoln CC, excerpted below) of the 2018 report by the architects show >> the many anticipated uses of the CC spaces throughout the day. Utilization >> of these spaces reaches high levels. >> >> Many activities would greatly benefit from new, purpose-built spaces. >> However, some of the activities appear to be doable in existing buildings >> (especially if they don't need COAHS/PRD staff to lead or supervise). These >> include foreign language conversation, chess club, bridge, and others. (I >> have not attended any of these so am not aware of particular needs.) >> >> Sorry if this has already been asked or answered, but can some of the >> program activities use other, existing spaces, e.g., the school, Hartwell >> main building and pods, Bemis, Pierce House, Library, DeCordova, etc, and >> reduce the square footage needed in the CC? >> >> Also, was cost an input to (that is, a constraint on) the architect's >> process, or are estimated costs outputs of the process? >> >> Best regards, >> Roy Harvey >> >> <image.png> >>> On 11/16/2022 4:50 PM Allen Vander Meulen <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have no doubt the CCBC and Selectboard are well aware there is >>> considerable concern over the costs of the Community Center project - more >>> than enough to kill the project if costs are too high. And I know they do >>> not want to waste time designing a facility that will never be built. I >>> think we can and should trust them to be good stewards of the town’s >>> available funds. >>> >>> Also, given that this is the early stages of the project, it is far better >>> - from a project management point of view - to not overly-constrain the >>> process. We need to see what the costs of building the Community Center we >>> want / need really are, and how various options will affect that cost. A >>> similar approach was done for the school project, resulting in three >>> options (at various price points) being presented to the town for a vote. >>> >>> I am certain the CCBC will pursue a similar strategy. So there is no need >>> to set a “cap” at this time; and in my opinion doing so will compromise the >>> end result in ways that no one will be happy with. >>> >>> - Allen Vander Meulen >>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 16:11, Sara Mattes <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Rob, et al. >>>> We could vote for the money, with a caveat-that the next step include a >>>> cap on total costs. >>>> Bob Mason has suggested a $15 million cap as that was the top end of the >>>> projected costs when we last visited numbers, and was a number that many, >>>> at the time were comfortable with. >>>> >>>> Without such caveat, there is no guarantee that the design iterations will >>>> come anywhere close to that figure. >>>> >>>> I suspect, like most, am bound by a budget/limit on what I can expend on >>>> construction, remodeling and/or renovations in my own home. >>>> Perhaps we can do that, as a town too. >>>> >>>> Your offer to lead fundraising is laudable, but we would need to raise $10 >>>> million in order to bring the price tag back to what had been seen has the >>>> upper limit. >>>> Would we old off voting on a bond until that goal was reached. >>>> I am not sure how this could work. >>>> >>>> If we do not, we continue to challenge the budgets of many and create a >>>> climate that limits opportunities for economic diversity in our community. >>>> If we are committed to diversity, as we espouse to be, we must walk our >>>> talk, have our actions match our words, and budget accordingly. >>>> >>>> I look forward to hearing more from others tonight. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sara >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> Sara Mattes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Rob <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From what I heard Jonathan Dwyer say last night, at this point there are >>>>> NO budgets, and there are no final plans for the Community Center. The >>>>> $325K is intended to hire an outside architect to work with the CCBC to >>>>> review the options that were worked out from 2018, and to ALSO >>>>> add/subtract features and consider learnings we’ve had over the last 3 >>>>> years, and to consider new information (cost, etc…) to come up with a >>>>> plan to present to the town again at the next town meeting. Ideally it >>>>> would be something we could vote on to continue the process. >>>>> >>>>> A “no” vote for this money prevents Lincoln from having the benefit of an >>>>> (outside) expert to come up with a new plan that fits with post-COVID >>>>> learnings and today’s financial reality and stops the process in its >>>>> tracks. >>>>> >>>>> I for one will vote to support the town’s request to spend this money on >>>>> assessing the 2018 plans to see if they are a fit for 2023 and beyond. I >>>>> will vote again if and when asked for more funds for further studies >>>>> and/or moving forward with a Community Center once we have more >>>>> information gathered by these outside experts and town staff and >>>>> volunteers. >>>>> >>>>> I am also eager to volunteer to help raise private funds to defray any >>>>> tax burden the community center might incur. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Rob Stringer >>>>> 15 Todd Pond >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >
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