The town of Lincoln continues to own the DeCordova, but no longer manages it. Management of the DeCordova has been contractually assigned to the Trustees of Reservations. In other words, some community events may continue to be held there (such as the annual Top of the Town party), but the Town doesn’t have the right to demand anything that would impose on TTOR’s ability to manage the property.
So any desire by the Town or Town-based organizations to use the DeCordova property for meetings and events would likely be subject to negotiation between TTOR and the Town—and there’s already a standing committee for that.... David Sykes > On Nov 16, 2022, at 8:33 PM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think that needs some nuance. > The Town of Lincoln ons the land. > The disposition of the buildings is another matter. > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > >> On Nov 16, 2022, at 6:08 PM, Jennifer Saffran <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> FYI: The Town of Lincoln no longer owns the DeCordova. The Trustees of the >> Reservation are the owners now. >> >>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:57 PM, ROY HARVEY <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Appendix D (Program Schedule Matrix) and Appendix O (A day in the life of >>> the Lincoln CC, excerpted below) of the 2018 report by the architects show >>> the many anticipated uses of the CC spaces throughout the day. Utilization >>> of these spaces reaches high levels. >>> >>> Many activities would greatly benefit from new, purpose-built spaces. >>> However, some of the activities appear to be doable in existing buildings >>> (especially if they don't need COAHS/PRD staff to lead or supervise). These >>> include foreign language conversation, chess club, bridge, and others. (I >>> have not attended any of these so am not aware of particular needs.) >>> >>> Sorry if this has already been asked or answered, but can some of the >>> program activities use other, existing spaces, e.g., the school, Hartwell >>> main building and pods, Bemis, Pierce House, Library, DeCordova, etc, and >>> reduce the square footage needed in the CC? >>> >>> Also, was cost an input to (that is, a constraint on) the architect's >>> process, or are estimated costs outputs of the process? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Roy Harvey >>> >>> <image.png> >>>> On 11/16/2022 4:50 PM Allen Vander Meulen <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I have no doubt the CCBC and Selectboard are well aware there is >>>> considerable concern over the costs of the Community Center project - more >>>> than enough to kill the project if costs are too high. And I know they do >>>> not want to waste time designing a facility that will never be built. I >>>> think we can and should trust them to be good stewards of the town’s >>>> available funds. >>>> >>>> Also, given that this is the early stages of the project, it is far better >>>> - from a project management point of view - to not overly-constrain the >>>> process. We need to see what the costs of building the Community Center we >>>> want / need really are, and how various options will affect that cost. A >>>> similar approach was done for the school project, resulting in three >>>> options (at various price points) being presented to the town for a vote. >>>> >>>> I am certain the CCBC will pursue a similar strategy. So there is no need >>>> to set a “cap” at this time; and in my opinion doing so will compromise >>>> the end result in ways that no one will be happy with. >>>> >>>> - Allen Vander Meulen >>>> >>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 16:11, Sara Mattes <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Rob, et al. >>>>> We could vote for the money, with a caveat-that the next step include a >>>>> cap on total costs. >>>>> Bob Mason has suggested a $15 million cap as that was the top end of the >>>>> projected costs when we last visited numbers, and was a number that many, >>>>> at the time were comfortable with. >>>>> >>>>> Without such caveat, there is no guarantee that the design iterations >>>>> will come anywhere close to that figure. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect, like most, am bound by a budget/limit on what I can expend on >>>>> construction, remodeling and/or renovations in my own home. >>>>> Perhaps we can do that, as a town too. >>>>> >>>>> Your offer to lead fundraising is laudable, but we would need to raise >>>>> $10 million in order to bring the price tag back to what had been seen >>>>> has the upper limit. >>>>> Would we old off voting on a bond until that goal was reached. >>>>> I am not sure how this could work. >>>>> >>>>> If we do not, we continue to challenge the budgets of many and create a >>>>> climate that limits opportunities for economic diversity in our community. >>>>> If we are committed to diversity, as we espouse to be, we must walk our >>>>> talk, have our actions match our words, and budget accordingly. >>>>> >>>>> I look forward to hearing more from others tonight. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Sara >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> Sara Mattes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Rob <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> From what I heard Jonathan Dwyer say last night, at this point there are >>>>>> NO budgets, and there are no final plans for the Community Center. The >>>>>> $325K is intended to hire an outside architect to work with the CCBC to >>>>>> review the options that were worked out from 2018, and to ALSO >>>>>> add/subtract features and consider learnings we’ve had over the last 3 >>>>>> years, and to consider new information (cost, etc…) to come up with a >>>>>> plan to present to the town again at the next town meeting. Ideally it >>>>>> would be something we could vote on to continue the process. >>>>>> >>>>>> A “no” vote for this money prevents Lincoln from having the benefit of >>>>>> an (outside) expert to come up with a new plan that fits with post-COVID >>>>>> learnings and today’s financial reality and stops the process in its >>>>>> tracks. >>>>>> >>>>>> I for one will vote to support the town’s request to spend this money on >>>>>> assessing the 2018 plans to see if they are a fit for 2023 and beyond. 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