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On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 9:19 AM Leslie Turek <[email protected]> wrote:

> My experience with Google Groups is that you don't need to have a Google
> account to send and receive email from a group. To people without Google
> accounts, it would seem very much like the current system we have. People
> with Google accounts would be able to log into the group to see past
> messages. I think it would be fairly easy to switch to Google groups if the
> administrators wanted to do so.
>
> Slack, on the other hand, would be a bigger step for people who are used
> to email. Younger people often use it in their workplaces, so are familiar
> with it, but for older people there's a bit of a learning curve and I think
> switching to it would lose a significant part of our current community.
>
> Leslie Turek
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 8:21 AM Laura Koller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all, for your comments. This appears to be a non-starter,
>> especially with the Community Center topic taking over much of the
>> discussion at present. I will just add that if we were to use Slack, Google
>> Groups or anything similar, I think it would be easy enough to just leave
>> it open on one's desktop or other device. To be clear: I don't know who
>> "owns" LT, but I greatly appreciate the effort required to run it,
>> troubleshoot, etc. Thank you, LT runner(s)!
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:22 PM June L Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Andrew. I agree.  I get lots of email from various sources, and it’s
>>> convenient to have LT in there with the rest.  If I had to log in somewhere
>>> else, I just might not do it.  But I also agree with the person who
>>> complained about the long email threads and the difficulty of figuring out
>>> who was replying to whom and on what topic.  But this is an issue mainly
>>> during a (complicated) discussion, such as the ongoing one on the community
>>> center.  Although I suppose LT could be improved, I don’t think that it’s
>>> really “broken” so let’s not try to fix it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> June Matthews
>>>
>>> Greenridge Lane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *ANDREW
>>> PANG
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2022 2:09 PM
>>> *To:* Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected]>; Laura Koller <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Slack instead of Mailman?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If using Google Groups or Groups.io requires having a Google account and
>>> logging in to that, no thanks.  As with Slack, that is an extra step, and
>>> an extra place to go to read the LT messages.  The beauty of the
>>> email-based list is that it's right in with other daily communication.  It
>>> is so basic that it works for all, whereas I suspect any "other 'modern'
>>> group communication platform" may require a subscription, which is a
>>> turnoff, regardless if it is free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know some people are logged in to Google all the time, but not
>>> everyone wants to do that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Pang
>>>
>>> Brooks Hill Road
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/14/2022 1:34 PM Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I love Slack. My wife and I have a private Slack server for running our
>>> household. But everyone knows how to use email -- I think a lot of folks
>>> who aren't used to Slack might struggle to use it, and community engagement
>>> would decrease.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, I definitely agree that the current Mailman infrastructure is
>>> badly outdated and we should leave for a better service. I would suggest
>>> migrating us from Mailman to either Google Groups or Groups.io. There are
>>> migration tools so that we wouldn't lose the archive, plus everything would
>>> become searchable and easier to navigate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who actually runs the infrastructure for LT anyway? 🤔
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 12:31 PM Laura Koller <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Could consideration be made for replacing the LincolnTalk listserv's
>>> antiquated format with Slack, or some other "modern" group communication
>>> platform? I find that the repetition of content makes these messages
>>> unwieldy and quite challenging to read through to find the non-repeated
>>> content. Thanks for considering this; any thoughts?
>>> --
>>>
>>> Laura Koller
>>>
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>>>
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