Dennis, I agree that you are not distorting the sentiment of the statement I posted before.
However, I think you're probably more correct to question this statement: "However, if you are in favor of a combined community center on the Hartwell campus, but are concerned about the cost, then I would encourage people to support the vote with a YES on Wednesday because this is the only way that the project can move forward and further define what the costs will be (and potential cost savings...and to be fair, possible cost increases) and overall impact. And whatever comes out, the town will be back to vote on THAT plan with, hopefully, more information." I will correct myself in saying that I should have said 'but are concerned about cost *and/or scope*' and not just the cost. I still believe, that without the funding, some of that reduction in scope can't happen without professional services to back them up. Some outreach could be done, but the real impact to the building and spaces can't really be determined without services. I've personally gone back and forth about supporting an amendment to put more explicit language in the warrant, but given the way it is written, it does not seem to fit in. The language is intentionally broad to give the committee some latitude in this next phase. I believe this puts more trust in the CCBC to look into some of the things you are suggesting in looking for some things that might be elsewhere, but given that I'm not going to do that work, I'll have to rely on the output of others. I always come back to the belief that the committee would like to build a community center, and they are going to come to terms with the fact that they are going to have to put forward a plan they think will pass a 2/3 vote to bond. This vote should not be the hard vote, the next ones (pick proposal & bond) are. - Andy On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 1:01 PM Dennis Picker <[email protected]> wrote: > I want to call attention to this outside of the torrent of posts on the > main Community Center thread. > > Andy Wang said, in part (I don't think that my excerpting distorts his > meaning): > > "Now, if you (the royal you, not you specifically, Adam) don't think that > there should be a combined community center at Hartwell at all, and I know > there are several of folks who don't, then you should vote NO, since I > don't think the committee intends to go way back 10+ years to re-hash all > those decisions." > > There is a crucial nuance here. Let's try to not get tangled up in > misunderstandings and confusion about what each of us thinks a "combined > community center" means when we vote. > > I support pursuing new construction to meet rec and coa needs at Hartwell > with the explicit caveat that this study, if approved, produces a new > option (to consider when it comes time to vote on a preferred choice) that > is no frills, focused on the essentials and that takes advantage of any > favorable opportunities to provide _some_ of the services at other sites in > town. Even if some of the services are not at the Hartwell site, it would > still be a "combined community center." > > From the discussion at the Select Board meeting last night, I believe that > something along the lines of what I said in the previous paragraph is what > the Community Center Building Committee intends to do. I eagerly await > seeing exactly what is presented tomorrow. > > If we incorporate the work to flesh out and cost estimate a version that > has "center of gravity and new construction at Hartwell, but some things > might be elsewhere" that is NOT re-hashing 10 years of work and decisions. > It is finally completing important work that I wish we had done earlier in > this saga. > > Dennis Picker > > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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