Andy, I urge you to read the motion that was voted last PM. There was much back and forth.
It is a bit tighter than the warrant we all have read. Perhaps the motion needs an amendment to allow even more flexibility? Sara ------ Sara Mattes > On Nov 29, 2022, at 1:30 PM, Andy Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dennis, > > I agree that you are not distorting the sentiment of the statement I posted > before. > > However, I think you're probably more correct to question this statement: > "However, if you are in favor of a combined community center on the Hartwell > campus, but are concerned about the cost, then I would encourage people to > support the vote with a YES on Wednesday because this is the only way that > the project can move forward and further define what the costs will be (and > potential cost savings...and to be fair, possible cost increases) and overall > impact. And whatever comes out, the town will be back to vote on THAT plan > with, hopefully, more information." > > I will correct myself in saying that I should have said 'but are concerned > about cost and/or scope' and not just the cost. I still believe, that > without the funding, some of that reduction in scope can't happen without > professional services to back them up. Some outreach could be done, but the > real impact to the building and spaces can't really be determined without > services. > > I've personally gone back and forth about supporting an amendment to put more > explicit language in the warrant, but given the way it is written, it does > not seem to fit in. The language is intentionally broad to give the > committee some latitude in this next phase. I believe this puts more trust > in the CCBC to look into some of the things you are suggesting in looking for > some things that might be elsewhere, but given that I'm not going to do that > work, I'll have to rely on the output of others. I always come back to the > belief that the committee would like to build a community center, and they > are going to come to terms with the fact that they are going to have to put > forward a plan they think will pass a 2/3 vote to bond. This vote should not > be the hard vote, the next ones (pick proposal & bond) are. > > - Andy > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 1:01 PM Dennis Picker <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I want to call attention to this outside of the torrent of posts on the main >> Community Center thread. >> >> Andy Wang said, in part (I don't think that my excerpting distorts his >> meaning): >> >> "Now, if you (the royal you, not you specifically, Adam) don't think that >> there should be a combined community center at Hartwell at all, and I know >> there are several of folks who don't, then you should vote NO, since I don't >> think the committee intends to go way back 10+ years to re-hash all those >> decisions." >> >> There is a crucial nuance here. Let's try to not get tangled up in >> misunderstandings and confusion about what each of us thinks a "combined >> community center" means when we vote. >> >> I support pursuing new construction to meet rec and coa needs at Hartwell >> with the explicit caveat that this study, if approved, produces a new option >> (to consider when it comes time to vote on a preferred choice) that is no >> frills, focused on the essentials and that takes advantage of any favorable >> opportunities to provide _some_ of the services at other sites in town. >> Even if some of the services are not at the Hartwell site, it would still be >> a "combined community center." >> >> From the discussion at the Select Board meeting last night, I believe that >> something along the lines of what I said in the previous paragraph is what >> the Community Center Building Committee intends to do. I eagerly await >> seeing exactly what is presented tomorrow. >> >> If we incorporate the work to flesh out and cost estimate a version that has >> "center of gravity and new construction at Hartwell, but some things might >> be elsewhere" that is NOT re-hashing 10 years of work and decisions. It is >> finally completing important work that I wish we had done earlier in this >> saga. >> >> Dennis Picker >> >> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >
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