Margaret - according to this article, we are required to follow a gross
density calculation. That’s why I’m afraid that image might be accurate.
Can someone explain?

https://commonwealthmagazine.org/opinion/solving-the-mbta-communities-zoning-puzzle/

Also, does anyone know the answer as to whether each property owner can
sell out separately to separate developers? I don’t think there are any
requirements regarding who they sell to and when. Might need a couple extra
headcount in the planning department to deal with the proposals.

Rob A
185 Lincoln Rd, Lincoln, MA 01773

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:39 PM Margaret Olson <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are protected largely by the nature of our land and previous land use
> measures. The conservation land and wetlands can not be built on. As a
> practical matter there is no place around the train station where anything
> even vaguely resembling that image could be built. Issaquah Highlands is
> 2,200 acres and 4,000 homes, and that image appears to be a schematic
> showing the types of housing they have.
>
> Once again I urge you to look at the images of our existing developments
> shown in the HCA Working group presentation (
> https://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/85116). That illustrates
> what 17 and 18 units per acre look like* in Lincoln.*  A giant 2000+ acre
> development is not going to look like Lincoln - and can't be built here.
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 11:16 AM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So how  are we protected from this happening ?
>> I might have missed something.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------
>> Sara Mattes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:38 AM, Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If you subtract the wetlands from the Lincoln Woods density, as we are
>> required to do for the HCA calculations, the density is 17.9 units per
>> acre. It’s that 17.9 that you experience as you walk around Lincoln Woods.
>>
>> As those of you who attended the STOTT presentations may remember, of the
>> 500 acres around the train station 340 (all but 160) are excluded from HCA
>> calculations because they are wetlands, institutions, water bodies, or
>> conservation land. To get a sense of what 15 units per acre looks like in
>> Lincoln please look at the examples in the STOTT presentation and look at
>> the density that accounts for the HCA exclusions.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:32 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lincoln woods is 6.3 units per acre
>>> Proposed Lincoln center zoning is 25 units per acre
>>>
>>> <image_123650291.JPG>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 7:47 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had the good fortune of attending the tour of Lincoln Woods put on by
>>>> FOMA yesterday after taking part in the State of the Town Meeting on
>>>> Saturday.  See:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.fomalincoln.org/outreach
>>>>
>>>> This densely built, multi-family development is anything but "gross."
>>>> In fact, I think it is quite the opposite and in many ways, represents the
>>>> best of Lincoln in terms of its ideals, collaborative problem solving, and
>>>> honoring the town's history of supporting modern, human scale dwellings.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should continue to trust the many volunteers who've put so
>>>> much time in coming up with a terrific solution to both comply with the
>>>> Housing Choice Act and to honor our history and values rather than to
>>>> fearmonger with words and images that don't represent the good work and
>>>> intentions of many residents.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 7:14 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK-can someone do that for the proposed area in S.Lincoln?
>>>>> The example offered by Robert Albert was alarming, and certainly NOT
>>>>> something I would like to see.
>>>>> Had I had such a visual at SoTT, I would voted for “None of the
>>>>> Above”, but would have indicated I would support a map that shrank the 
>>>>> size
>>>>> of the S.Lincoln district to focus on the Mall,  and maybe Lewis Street,
>>>>> and then include the Lincoln North + Battle Road Farm to make up the
>>>>> difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps such modeling as seen in the post could better educate the
>>>>> likes of me as to what S.Lincoln might look like under each scenario?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know the assertion is that this will take decades to build out, and
>>>>> that is my concern.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to leave Lincoln the wonderful, small town I fell in love with
>>>>> over 45 years ago.
>>>>> Yes, there have been and will be changes, but the density and
>>>>> intensity suggested is not what I would like to visit on  future
>>>>> generations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Sara Mattes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:49 AM, Don Seltzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an excellent online tool called Residensity which provides an
>>>>> interactive map for viewing actual residential density for towns,
>>>>> neighborhoods, and individual parcels.
>>>>> https://residensity.mhp.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Seltzer
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:27 AM Robert Ahlert <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As we start to think about what this build out is going to look like,
>>>>>> it is useful to look at a couple articles that help visualize it.  Also, 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> learned that density can be spread across a district or sub-district, 
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> the average needs to be 15 units.  But with the 36' high maximum in town,
>>>>>> it will be interesting to see what the designs are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://mrsc.org/stay-informed/mrsc-insight/april-2017/visualizing-compatible-density
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scroll down in the above and you will get to some ideas about 15
>>>>>> units per acre.  Given some plots have wetlands, some will have to be
>>>>>> higher and others lower to make it average out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This assumes each property owner in the district/sub districts
>>>>>> sells-out at the same time.  If they don't, i guess each developer will
>>>>>> come up with their own design?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>
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